This state’s lesbian attorney general is forcing Christians to do something that will make your jaw drop


LGBT activists want to punish Christian organizations and charities.

Now they’ve found a new target to attack in the worst way possible.

And what this state’s lesbian Attorney General is forcing Christian adoption agencies to do just crossed the line.

Christian adoption agencies have historically had strict rules for who can adopt a child.

These rules are in place to protect the child and ensure they are placed with parents properly equipped to raise them.

Naturally, they also seek candidates that share their Christian values.

But Michigan’s lesbian Attorney General, Dana Nessel, is determined to put an end to it.

Dana Nessel is ordering all Christian adoption agencies to allow same-sex parents to adopt children.

The Christian Post reports:

Adoption and foster care agencies in Michigan who contract with the state can no longer refuse to place children with qualified same-sex parents over religious reasons thanks to a legal settlement Friday that some fear will put faith-based agencies out of business.

Democrat Attorney General Dana Nessel and the two same-sex couples represented by the American Civil Liberties Union came to a legal agreement that a 2015 law allowing religious-based adoption agencies to refuse adoption services to same-sex couples violates federal discrimination laws.

The agreement settled a federal complaint filed in 2017 after the couples were refused service by St. Vincent Catholic Charities and Bethany Christian Services…

Under its nondiscrimination provision, agencies looking to partner with the state cannot turn away or refuse a same-sex couple or individual who is suitable to foster or adopt a child.

Dana Nessel is interfering with a private Christian adoption agency to push her own personal LGBT agenda.

Studies show that children raised by a mother and father have better outcomes than those raised in single parent or same-sex households.

It is also a massive violation of the First Amendment.

But LGBT activists don’t care about the Constitution. They want to force everyone to accept their lifestyle.

Do you think Christian adoption agencies should be forced to allow same-sex couples to adopt children?

Answer “Yes” or “No” in the comments below and let us know why.


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  2. There will be no homosexuals, transgenders, or any other sexual pervert in Heaven. ALL sin must be forgiven to enter in.

  3. NO Christian Adoption Agencies shouldn’t be forced to allow “gay” & LGBT couples to adopt children! we have to stand up to these people & stop letting them DEMAND what we are to believe! people have to wake up & take back their lives! I love “gay” & LGBT people! I don’t LOVE the way they choose to live their lives! it’s a hard choice for a person to give up a child for adoption. do they have a say in who adopts their child? don’t most people that allow their child to be place with CHRISTIAN adoption believe their child will be placed with CHRISTIAN parents? we have to stop this take over of Christian values! Lord help us JESUS!

  4. I had to do a research paper on adoptions for Nursing school. It was my understanding that people who put up a child for adoption, chose certain agencies to be sure of the type of placement, and the intent of the adopting people – who had to qualify under various requirements. This throws that all out (the proverbial baby with the bath water). I can understand an older child who is homosexual, and who is neglected or abandoned by parents, could be suitably placed with a stable, same-sex couple who are, by definition, well qualified to prepare this youngster for the challenges of such a life style, but it should be part of seeking the optimum placement criteria to get the child into a normal, not an alternative, family situation.

  5. GOD created a male (man) and a female (woman) to be partners for one another. And also in order that MAN (humans) would be able to procreate to continue the future generations. It is simple, a woman (female) can not be a father. A man (male) can not be a mother. You may be able to change your looks BUT you can not change what GOD has created.


  7. First, studies show that children raised with parents that are same-sex fare equally as well as those raised by opposite-sex parents on a wide range of social, emotional, health and academic outcomes.

    Second, in no way is their 1st Amendment violated.

    Third, explain to me how Christians would rather children be unwanted and raised in orphanages than in loving homes.

  8. Forcing the private sector to “take or accept “ a client is wrong. The right to refuse service belongs in the private sector.

  9. Children should be placed in Christian homes that have a father (man) and a mother (woman) as God says.

  10. Another elected official putting their personal views ahead of those of the people. This has to stop. Don’t forget you put her there to serve you, not her personal vendetta. We need to start bringing all our elected officials to task that are not serving the people. Gary

  11. Time for replacement of Satanic and atheistic elected or appointed legislators and officials!
    Time to install the 10 commandments (or at least the secular 4-10) in every public forum.
    Encourage everyone to create a one page document to document their authority for what they believe. I did this with

  12. Allowing homosexuals to adopt is CHILD ABUSE!! The MI state attorney should be charged with felony aiding and abetting Child Abuse! Shame on MI.

  13. No same sax couples have the same risks as normal heterosexual couples. Risks like abuse, sexual abuse, abandonment so if a PRIVATE agency wants to turn them down it is their right.

  14. No Christian Adoption Agencies should NOT be forced to change their requirements to feed into another’s agenda.

  15. I totally agree with you. I’m a devout Christian but if I was a child, as long as a couple wanted me and loved me, I would be thrilled to be adopted instead of being brought up in an orphanage.

  16. God made Adam & Eve Not Adam & Steve.
    Lesbians, Gays, Perverts, & Pedophiles should NOT be allowed to Adopt a child.

    Their life style is not for a child to be around. I don’t even want to be around it.

  17. It is not about your gay friends. Nessel, it is about the safety, Christian ideals and more. Christian adoption agencies have been present for many years without such demands and should remain unmolested by such a demand.

  18. Did you even bother to read the studies? A large number of them compare children raised by lesbian couples with those raised by gay couples. They do not compare those two options versus normal male female couples. Try actually reading and comprehending based upon what is actually written and not what you would like it to say.

  19. Better be looking at your priests instead. They are the ones that have been molesting children, not homosexuals.

  20. Another sad day at some point we will have to stand up for what we believe. The problem is we are not a God fearing Nation anymore.

  21. The gay community can do what ever they want, just don’t effect me or my Christian beliefs . If you are gay, God doesn’t want you to have children.

  22. Treason is a badge of honor for the Godless NAZI Commie liberal Racist Demoncrat Party and RINOs! The party of hate, hypocrisy, lies, deception, Fake News (Russian Collusion and Jussie M hoax) the list is endless! And the clueless minions that follow them!

  23. You know what I think? Butch, needs to stick to herself and leave the adoption of children to normal people. Kids have a right to be raised by a father and mother. Yes, a right. She, has no right to screw with a child by having them placed into an abnormal life style.

  24. Absolutely not. It should be the birth parents choice- they put their children in a Christian adoption agency because they wanted a father and a mother to raise their child- not 2 men or 2 women!!! Their choice should be honored.

  25. If, you don’t like what this attorney general is doing…don’t elect a person like that, to any office and you won’t have these kinds of problems forced on you! Voters are really stupid to put a person like her into office. What did you think would happen???

  26. No! Know of a young girl raised by a lesbian couple who was so confused with her sexuality that she was having sex with all the boys in her school in the girls bathroom. She had to go for psychological evaluation and is still messed up to this day. When asked why she said it was because of her “mothers” (both of them) relationships and the harassment she received in school because of it.

  27. In the midst of all our conversation are vulnerable children being used as guinea pigs in this social experiment. If you are a same sex couple, go to a secular adoption agency which will most likely accommodate your self – serving experiment. Going to a Christian agency only exposes your true agenda of destroying any one or thing that says no to your chosen lifestyle.

  28. Exactly I guess the reality that the hearts and minds of these wicked sinners has been blinded by Satan. In Roman 1 they have given themselves over to sin and reprobate mind and are no longer capable of natural feelings and emotion because sin hardens the heart. It is a sinful lifestyle I don’t care if some reprobate evil judge passes an unjust law? No human can ever make what is sinful and unjust holy and just! They have to become perverted in their thinking to do so. Therefore infecting civilization with evil sinful ungodliness that can never bring redemption. Only more pain and suffering for everyone. Marriage in Gods design in the bible is Holy. That is why we call Marriage Holy Matrimony. Mans version is unholy wicked sinful evil perverted with no redemptive value!

  29. No one should force anything on anybody!!! I don’t care what sex you like, but stop forcing this on everyone else!!!!

  30. In my opinion gays should NOT be allowed to adopt. Those children cannot have an impartial life. The gay life style is what they will have and will be forced to embrace it. They will be raised to consider it normal and will not be allowed to deviate from it.

  31. The adoption agencies should just tell this POS atty Gen to go sh** in her hat. There should be ZERO same sex couples adopting kids. It has to give them a warped sense of family values.

  32. No. It’s similar to Catholic hospitals being forced to perform abortions. There are other places that will do them, and it is contrary to the Constitutional guarantees to compel those to whom abortion is antipathetic to do them.

  33. It is NOT a Christian or LGBT issue, it is a HUMAN issue! Homo sapiens are an animal class of hominids. It is a biological issue. ONLY a male female couple can correctly raise an offspring. There is no way for a gay couple to biologically create a child! NO child should be raised in an environment that does not support the natural role of male/female parents! It makes no difference what religion they are, it is biologically incorrect.
    I am a Christian, was baptized twice and sprinkled once, beat that!

  34. Kraut
    NO! This has nothing to do with adoption. It is ALL about shoving LGBT mentality down everyone’s throat.
    If LGBT couples are seriously wanting to adopt, there are LGBT oriented Adoption agencies that will fill their need, but that is not enough for them. THEY WANT TO “Leave their Mark” in the LGBT community.
    Maybe it is time for Christian based Adoption agencies to ” CUT THEIR TIES” to Federal and State funding and maintain their independence and Christian Principals.

  35. First: Cornell is a liberal university and will not present, within the department, dissension. Many falsely use research like the one of 97% of scientist support global warming, when in all actuality it is more like 1% when you ask those who are qualified. Bill Nye is not qualified. South Pole gains millions and millions of tons of new Ice each year and the polar bear population is growing.

    Second: When someone who owns a business refuses to produce a good because it goes against their religious beliefs, and then they are told that their beliefs are homophobic hate speech and they must produce the goods, you cannot tell me that their first amendment rights are not violated. People who oppose left leaning agendas are labeled hateful. It is a common practice that defies thought. Just because something can be done, doesn’t mean it should be. We should have learned that lesson as children.

  36. NO they should not place babies or young kids with same sex couples or anyone that is gay. I’m tried of people trying to FORCE me except something that I know is very, very , very WRONG.

  37. I am commenting on the phrase, “suitable couples”. Who decides who is suitable? What is each parents’ motives for adopting a child? Is it to train them in the way they should go, or to indoctrinate them into a particular lifestyle? We are all indoctrinated in one way or another. I agree with a previous comment which was to let the natural parents decide who they would like to adopt their child.

  38. God will intervene on this totally misfit behavior! All those that say God is not the author of man, will soon find out that their satanic behavior will be completely destroyed. They are as Crazy as their Demonic Behavior…

  39. Dont ever wonder why people are getting sick and tired of this crap. You have the right to do what you want but children should not have to have their lives screwed up just because of it

  40. No, I do not believe adoption agencies should be forced to act against the best efforts for the child. Same sex couples do not afford a balanced healthy atmosphere for the proper upbringing of children.

  41. Please we all know that the LBGT agenda is too rule America with their sick sense of morality. I think that President Trump ought to declare same sex marriage and same sex upbringing of a child illegal in all states. What God has written should be the law as our founding fathers also believed. I think that the LBGT Movement is totally afraid of GOD, because that His laws and precepts make perfect sense to non-liberals. Quite frankly I think their battles are in vain, because GOD is not going to sit back and allow this to happen nationwide.

  42. I live in MIchigan. I did not vote for Dana Nessel. She is not capable of enforcing the laws if they
    do not agree with her personal feelings. Her judgement will always be clouded in that respect. If she
    doesn’t like the current laws, she should have run for the Legislature and worked to change them there.

  43. It does not even matter about the studies at all. God trumps whoever made them. He forbids homosexuality and does not want innocent children brought up by perverts.

  44. No. Children need to be raised up in a household with a man and a woman. God created Adam And Eve,this is the way life is suppose to start. If at some time during the growth period they have those feeling. They need to talk about it with trained Professionals.I believe every child deserves Love and to be Loved. Children are a ball of emotions growing and as teens. But if you lead them down down that road they can be confused about their true self.

  45. Seriously when you look at the lifestyle conduct and behaviors of of these alternative New Agers lifestylers? The vast majority of them screw around with everything have multiple sex partners because the lifestyle is sinful unGodly unholy. And they are complete LIARs because they chose in their darkened disalusioned minds made a decision in Union with demonic spirits to believe the LIE and are in fact against Jesus Christ God the Bible and cannot be trusted ever! Let alone being around children. God says in the Bible that it is better these wicked evil sinners to hang a cinderblock around around their necks and be thrown into the deep blue sea then to harm one of these little children. God is not mocked whatsoever a man sowes they will reap! When the Isrealights got out of line God sent numerous PLAGUES to correct them. Anyone remember God using Moses to chastise the Egyptians with pestilence disease flies frogs locusts famine and a whole host of these consequences for their sinful lifestyles in the Old Testament Genesis 5? God will judge sinners who refuse to repent God will not be mocked! Whatsoever a man sows he will reap! Just like in Noah’s day so will be in the end times you better get ready.

  46. Demetri – It is both. Homosexuality is a sin against God and a freak of nature. And you only need to be baptized once, so no need to beat it.

  47. NO! This whole situation reeks of a “Set-Up”! It’s the Colorado Baker case all over again. Those two couples were, most likely, LGBTQ activists and targeted those two Adoption Agencies specifically because they were Faith Based. The tactics were the same in Colorado. Our new AG has indulged in the practice known as “Sue & Settle” in order to get around an existing law which grants those agencies to do what they do without fear of legal actions against them. If we follow this to it’s logical conclusion then all Faith Based adoption agencies will close down due to this change in law enforcement. Since those agencies account for about 30% of all Michigan adoptions who will step in to fill the void left by their closures? It will only make things worse for the State Run agencies because they will have to pickup the slack which will lead to more of a backlog to an already overburdened State run system. In effect, the Michigan AG, is cutting off her nose to spite her own face. These are typical tactics when it comes to the advancement of her personal agenda and I find it very disgusting and dishonest. It does not serve the Common Good for Michigan Citizens at all and makes me disuse the Democratic Party even more. I also hope that all of the Detroit Liberals are happy with themselves because this is all of their doing. I hope that they’ll enjoy all the Tax increases and other Leftist changes that will soon be coming our way because this is merely the Beginning of our slide down the “Rat-Hole”!

  48. You hit the nail right on the head. It is to get their agenda shoved down our throats. There are other agency’s that will be happy to give them what they want. Who post the research . Take it with a grain of salt. There are a lot of false research out there. I’ve been told look at who sponsors it and what they gain by it.

  49. Now Gay Pride is Over the top.Its time for these individuals to understand they are Not where its at.They should be left alone to search themselves,not picked on or bothered.Just don’t take away My privileges to give them more.No more adoption by Gays.Sorry.not that you are a bad person just confused and need to Stop Leading Our Common Values.Hetero is in.LGBTQ+ are Out.You can have Obuma with you to claim the Right direction.We The People Born here in the USA Know Right from Wrong.You can constantly bombard us with your Crappy Lies but we won’t buy it.Take your LGBTQ+ and Go somewhere you can again be Invisible and take Advantage of those with Big Hearts.(innocently groomed)Then when ready again come out and Try to Take Over Our Society’s Morals and Values.Good Try but No Cigar.BYE,BYE

  50. The fact is children learn how to behave and what is normal from their parents. And so putting a child who likely is heterosexual into a homosexual environment is setting the stage for that child to be confused as to was is their identity. I’ve nothing against the LGBT crowd living their life as they see fit, but line needs to be drawn when it impacts an innocent child’s life.



  52. NO! Religious Liberty is enshrined in our Constitution. Study after study has shown children raised in two parent household do better in live then do single parent families and having a mommy and daddy is what constitutes a two parent household. I don’t care how the LGBTQRS community wants to spin it, a same sex houshold is basically two roommates of the same sex, NOT a healthy family unit.

  53. NO. Adoption has no place in ‘gum’mnt’ snoops area. ‘Gum’mnt’ is incompetent in all areas and must not be allowed to interfere with human operations. This has nothing to do with religion but everything to do with allowing idiots to control human destiny.

  54. I think a GLBT was not a good choice for Attorney General. This case is proof of that. The almighty is the only one qualified to make a persons choice of gender. If he or she can’t live with that, they certainly shouldn’t drag children into their screwed up lifestyle!

  55. NO ! What happened to our freedom of religion ?
    Christian charities or Muslim or Jewish or Hindu or whatever charities should not be forced to adhere
    to a policy which is contrary to their religious beliefs. Enough said.
    The attorney general of Michigan should be impeached for violating the Constitution she is sworn to uphold.
    Does not matter one bit what her sexual orientation is. She is in violation of her oath of office.

  56. Nor will the following inherit the kingdom of God: FORNICATORS, IDOLATORS, ADULTERERS, THEIVES, the COVETOUS, DRUNKARDS, REVILERS, SWINDLERS.

    Why do Christians insist on cherry-picking Scripture? Do you honestly think that gays are just some abhorrent sex crazed lunatics? Let me tell you, no relationship lasts if it’s only about sex..whether you’re straight or gay. I’ve known lesbian couples together for 30+ years!

    Other than the Pharisees, Sadducees, and Scribes (leaders/teachers/pastors), did Yeshua rail against and call names those who had not yet repented (no matter their sin)? NO!

    Unless you were born into a strong Christian family, or accepted Yeshua as your Savior at a very young age, you lived in the world apart from God. It isn’t until we truly sought the Lord with all our heart, that our eyes were finally opened…BY HIM! So how on earth do you think ANYONE would want to embrace Christianity when those very people call them EVIL, PERVERTS, OF A REPROBATE MIND, WICKED, and shout “God hates fags”!? Good does NOT hate anyone, He HATES SIN OF ALL KINDS which separates us from Him.

    I was a lesbian until I was 30. I started reading the Bible on my own (not understanding that the Lord was drawing me) and as I read God’s word, HE AND HE ALONE softened my heart, HE began to show me my worth, what I meant to HIM, how much HE loved me…and I believed what HE said. I wanted to be loved by HIM, to experience that unconditional, eternal love… and I wanted to love HIM back. Even if I did not fully understand…HE was changing my heart and how I saw myself.

    I was invited to church by a co-worker, and after an evening service, for some reason I decided to talk to the pastor, even though I truly had no idea what I was going to say. When it was my turn, I just blurted out “I’m gay, and I’m afraid!” And I began sobbing uncontrollably. This pastor was so kind. All he did was put his arm around my shoulder and had me sit down next to him. I just couldn’t stop crying. He finally led me out of the room full of people into his office. I told him I was in a 5 year relationship and I just didn’t understand how or why God would condemn me for loving someone. I didn’t know how I was supposed to stop loving her. He told me I didn’t have to stop loving my partner, but that the Lord wanted better for my life…(he didn’t mean that eventually I had to be with a man). I felt so comforted and accepted by this pastor, that I eventually accepted Yeshua as my Savior. But it wasn’t people calling me names, telling me how perverted and evil I was, or that I was going to hell. Let me tell you, I would have gotten as far away from people like that as I could. I WAS LOVED INTO GOD’S GRACE AND MERCY.

    My view of my relationship began to change, not because of MY doing, but my eyes were being opened by the Lord. Oh it was so painful…to walk away from someone you truly love is one of the most heart-wrenching things I’ve ever done. But I knew His love was greater than any earthly relationship. Things I’d accepted from my partner, I saw with God’s clarity, that they were often selfishly motivated, unkind at times, even abusive. And that’s what my pastor meant when he said God wanted better for me. God wanted to fill my heart, my life with His love. But it’s GOD who changes the heart…not ridicule, condemnation, or harsh judgment….that isn’t how Yeshua or his disciple won hearts. Usually, correction was leveled at those who were making mistakes in their teaching others.

    Try not to just focus on sex…relationships are so much more than sex. And our behavior as believers is to plant seeds, be examples of Yeshua’s love. There is only One who judges the heart. God knows those hearts that are searching for Him…we are to pray for people and love them into His kingdom, NOT CHASE THEM AWAY. PRAY for those to find the Savior.

  57. Dana Nessel should just keep her f-in mouth shut. I know why she’s gay. Look at her, would you do her, no way. Nobody in general, especially a Christian adoption agency should be ordered to change their policies regarding adoption. Those policies are implemented for a reason. Who the hell does she thinks she is to go against the laws and beliefs of mother nature and the Christian faiths and beliefs. My wife and I have discussed this a few times. Disagree and agree on this matter. I accept people for who they are, not what they are or who they’ve become. We both agree that whether it’s two men or two women, if they are able and willing to provide an excellent and loving home for a child, why not. There are many children who are up for adoption, so why deny them a good and loving home. Now, on the flip side. It does go against the laws of God. Adoption should be with a man and woman but it seems like it’s part of the way thing are happening in todays world. I just don’t think it should be forced or ordered upon. That’s why it’s a belief. Some like it, some don’t. Don’t force it upon me. So we may not agree on a subject, but that doesn’t mean it’s right or wrong. THINK ABOUT IT!!! The one main thing that worries and concerns me about same sex marriage adoptions is the abuse and teasing a child can and will get from cruel kids at school or anywhere else. How’s that going to affect these innocent children? Think about it, so kid, you have two mommies or two daddies, that’s weird. That poor kids isn’t going to have or be able to live a normal life for the most part.

  58. Our 1st Amendment rights are being taken away because of their agenda. I don’t think a Christian based adoption agency should be force to provide services to a lesbian. Furthermore the parents should beable to say who adopts their child by their values and desires.

  59. No!! The states should not be interfering with faith based institutions! They should not be forced to allow same sex couples to adopt.!! It’s amazing that liberals only believe in separation of church and state when it appeals to them!

  60. Are you saying no same sex couples have the same risks…that only gay couple risks are abuse, sexual abuse, abandonment??? Or are you saying. NO, same sex couples and hetero couples have the same risks?

    Because if you’re saying hetero couples don’t have those risks…you’ve not paid attention to how many father, brothers, uncles have abused, sexually abused, and abandoned their own children.

  61. And that is the VOTERS fault for NOT doing the necessary research. And those who have done the research, need to expose them.

  62. What the Lord does in judging a person’s heart, is His business, not yours to condemn, play judge, and treat them harshly. It is GOD who changes hearts, GOD who pursues us with HIS LOVE…not harsh judgment, hurtful words or labels.

    Judge NOT, lest in the measure that you judge others, YOU WILL BE JUDGED.

    PRAY FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO THE LORD…not run to get away from judgmental Christians!

  63. And you think telling anyone that their behavior is crazy and demonic is actually something Jesus would have said to ANYONE???

  64. First, it I had to place a baby or young child with an adoption agency, I would chose a Christian agency where I knew the child would be brought up attending church regularly. In my lifetime (I am 74) I have known 4 people who were gay. They all died at a young age which might not be the case now that the medical field has made such advances in AIDS research but I would want a child to have a Christian man and woman as parents. In today’s open adoption world many birth parents and adoptive parents keep in touch. Why does our government rule against those with Christian values? Our country was founded on freedom of religion and if Congresswomen who are Muslim can use the Koran to be sworn in, maybe we should also change that!

  65. Actually, separation of church and state was meant that the government could not enforce the practice of any particular faith, nor cwere they allowed to prevent others from practicing their own faith.

    This was because in England, the religion of the king or queen on the throne DID dictate what religion/faith the people were required to follow…often on penalty of imprisoned and/or death. Our Founding Fathers did not want that kind of tyranny in America.


  67. No!!! this is not right at all! I’m so tired of LGBT agenda! They can’t desern right from wrong! They want to dictate what they want the rest of America and the world! They will call evil good and good evil! Isaiah 5:20-21 King James Version (KJV)

    20 Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

    21 Woe unto them that are wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
    Jesus please stop this evil in America!

  68. Jesus is all about truth. He said that we are to hate all sin. God is very clear that homosexuality is a sin. It is a perversion of what God intended for us. If sin is okay, then there would have been no need for Jesus to die on the cross. Do you think He died in vain?? NO!! All sin must be forgiven to enter into Heaven and He took ALL sin upon Himself because He loves us so much. But we must come to HIM and ask forgiveness. Homosexuals will not do that because they do not think they are sinning. That is very sad

  69. Who is now doing the judging??? It is YOU. Jesus said that we are to judge sin for what it is. He will change hearts.

  70. No way should they be allowed to turn childrens heads that their live style is right.I have seen on a trip gay boys no younger than 15 walking hand in hand and kissing down the street.It made me sick.This is NOT the way kids should be.It is a SIN.

  71. Jesus had plenty to say to the Pharisees. And the money changers He drove out of the temple. He commands that we hate all sin. So you are saying that it is okay to sin? If so, then Jesus had no need to die for us

  72. Actually, there is no separation of church and state in our Constitution. The only mention of it was in a private letter. Our founding fathers weren’t concerned about it. They attended church services in the Capitol Building, require Bibles in schools, and installed chaplains in the military. The only thing that was forbidden was a state religion, which they fled from

  73. No, they should not be forced to allow LGBTQ people to adopt. It is not healthy, no natter what they try to say. I love them, but their lifestyle is against God’s commands, not mine or anyone elses, yet they seem to think it is our own opinion. If Christians demanded that adoption agencies must make exceptions just based on their being Christians that would not be acceptable to the LGBTQ community, so why should they expect that Christian adoption agencies should have to allow them to adopt children? This is the inequality of thought and action that is eroding American values as a whole. People think they should be allowed to do something, but if you disagree you should not be allowed and especially if you are Christian. There seems to be no acceptance of freedom of speech by the liberal side as we have always had.

  74. Dems just automatically vote for dems no matter what. It is very sad, as the dem party is far from what it was. JFK would not be allowed in it today

  75. I think we can safely say that everybody wants children to be raised in a safe environment above all else. Or at least I hope so. So, given the number of children who are sexually abused by men, it is clear that, statistically speaking, children will be safer being raised by lesbian couples. Now, I’m sure you will find reasons to disagree with me. But if you analyze them, I’ll bet that all of those reasons involve a certain degree of insistence that children be raised with your Christian God being crammed down their throats.

  76. The goal of homosexuals and other sexually perverted people is to force the rest of us to accept their lifestyle. They are in satan’s army. satan will rule for a period of time before Jesus returns and it is all falling into place. Those who belong to Jesus cannot accept their perversion, as it is a sin. There will be a final battle between God and His people and satan and his people. God wins.

  77. So having innocent children very confused about sex is fine with you. And even lesbian couples have abused children. And you can deny God all you want. He gives you the choice to follow Jesus to Heaven or satan to Hell. Your hatred of God is very sick. Jesus teaches us love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness and helping others. And WE have to come to HIM to be saved. No one can cram Him down our throats. Jesus loves you very much and is there for you if you ever want Him. But He will never force Himself on you

  78. Actually, God does not want you to be gay. He says it is a sin, but homosexuals twist the Bible to say what it doesn’t

  79. There is no such thing as a christian, just hypocrites who cherry pick a book they supposedly look to for guidance. It is too bad they do not practice what they preach.

  80. No child should be adopted into a sick relationship between disgusting gays who would probably ruin the poor child’s life. Imagine what those poor poor children would go through because of it with other children. I am SICK TO DEATH of having homosexuality being crammed down our throats!!!! Having to see pictures of those gut wrenching hideous ugly people makes me literally sick. OMG PLEASE PLEASE- GO BACK IN THE CLOSET—- DEEP DEEP DEEP IN THE CLOSET- AND BEVER COME OUT! I’M SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THEM!

  81. Yes it means perverted wont work that is why GOD calls it an abomination. He tells us all the things that are perverted and wont work. We were supposed to go populate the world and bill and steve cant do that. That is perverted. GOD loves the person but hates the abomination.

  82. Sounds like you have a powerful ministry in your life-whether or not you choose to accept it. There are SO many people who are blinded by their “feelings,” incl. gay/lesbian/trans people – AND the heterosexual who are living in adultery or the grave sin of fornication. You are so right – G-d hates ALL sin! Glad you found Yeshua. Only He can satisfy…

  83. You make a point-but the push to force adoption agencies who believe an active homosexual lifestyle to be sinful should NOT be forced to place a child, of any age or standing, into such a home. A loving “traditional” family (that is, mother, father-maybe other kids) that will love a same-sex attracted older child would be much healthier, something these people do not yet realize. The idea that such a lifestyle can be shoved down the throat of agencies who’ve successfully placed children in loving traditional homes is abhorrent-to those of us who believe the First Amendment still stands, as well as Biblical principles.

  84. Michael I am glad that you finally accepted Christ and that you hadn’t been turned over to a reprobate mind. you must know by reading God’s Word that He hates sin and he includes homosexuality in that sin and He even carries it over to the New Testament. As you and other say, Our Lord hates all sin. Being saved means turning away from that sin and not continuing to live in that sin. People also try to tell you it is heredity and no one will ever make me believe that My God who says it is an abomination unto Him would make us be born that way. Homosexuality is a choice, a choice to sin just as all the other sins are choice. I do not believe that we should be made to bow to the homosexual’s wants. I believe they should let Christians alone. I have worked with homosexuals and there are some very nice ones who keep their lifestyle to themselves as well as I do keep mine to myself. I never dreamed I would see in this country men marrying men and women marrying women and believing it is o.k. Like it or not, it is not ok and Christians should not have to be forced to let them have whatever they want. It was not ok for Sodom and Gomorrah and it is not ok for America. I had one tell me as he was dying of aids and that he knew the lifestyle was wrong but wanted it and he called out to God as he was dying. That had been his plan to live the demented life and then call out at the end. Only God knows what happened to him. It also says in God’s word that Christians cannot condone sin. It is really sad that our world has come to this but God said it would. Evil would become good and Good would become Evil. Do I think Christian Adoption Agencies should be forced to let homosexuals adopt, No I do not. To me that would be sending them to live in a sinful lifestyle and that would be condoning the sin. Man plus woman makes children =family. That is how God made it to be and that is how it should stay.

  85. Not Really as some Individuals are not made the way they are supposed to be and everybody should just leave them alone to their lives n fantasies BUT BUT THEY SHOULD NOT FORCE THEIR WAY/THINKING ON THE REST OF EVERYBODY

  86. Hate to break it to you, but there are same-sex couples that are Christians too. They go to Christian adoption agencies because they believe in god.

  87. Except when it is what you want. You dont like abortion so no one should have one. You dont like homosexuals so no one should be gay.

    When you take the rights away from someone else you lose your own rights.

  88. It is factual that that part of our society that exhibit these dysmorphic sexual tendencies and behaviors have high rates of suicide, drug addiction, alcoholism, mental disorders, and that males are the reservoir of AIDS. That same group of males and females , especially males, have much higher incidences of all STD’s. Now, what on God’s green earth would make anybody even think of putting a child in such a grouping of people. They are not families – just a composite faux family that dysfunctions perpetually. Children raised in these circumstances have a frightenly high rate of emotional and mental disorders – along the rate of 7% to (%, according to the NIH and CDC. I personally know 3 teenagers, one of whose parent’s was a lesbian, and the other two were conceived in vitro and implanted (a sinful thing itself) : all of whom who chose to live with other people. Two with there grandfather, and one with her natural father. They could not “adjust” to the dystonic and extremely unsettling behaviors of the female who gave birth to them. All are doing well now, and thank God for that. A homosexual cannot be a proper parent -they cannot exhibit and create the conditions that require a man how to teach his son how to be a good man, nor can he be a correct father figure to his daughter. The same goes for females. The courts have gone much too far meddling and assuming everybody should have the same rights when in comes to children. Soon, pedophiles of both sexes and God knows what else will be allowed to force adoptive desires upon any child they desire. I’m not religious as such; a Deist to be correct, but I don’t think God is gong to reward the people engaged in this sickening trend very well. Hell comes to an end, but Purgatory lasts forever, and if there are such places in or out of our Universe, it’s where they belong forever.

  89. Do you all realize that you all said the same thing about bi-racial couples? Christians faught against the right of bi-racial couples to marrying, to adopting, to co-habitating in your world. And in another 20-30 years it will be something else that you “Christians” will be thumping your bibles about.

    God is suppose to be about love but all I am hearing is hate. You would rather a child be unwanted, living in an orphanage than be adopted by a couple that wants children. All because you dont agree with same-sex couples. How selfish is that?

  90. KACI: LIAR !!!! The passing around of kidnapped and or/duped young boys and teens for sexual satisfaction?? It’s men, idiot child! John Wayne Gacy is one of the most evil specimens, but there are thousands more, known and unknown, engaged in this death penalty (should be) activity. There seems to be not so much of it among women, but I cannot delude myself into thinking that it doesn’t happen to young girls also. Here in Des Moines over 20 years ago, we had two paperboys disappear, never to be found. It sure as Hell wasn’t Clifford the Big Red Dog that did it. It was some homicidal homosexual pedophile, period. There is no other rational or even plausible explanation. Law enforcement agencies from the town marshals to the FBI have established beyond any shadow of a doubt that these rings exist, and such information is regularly made known by the media.When the kid is eventually totally broken and loses sanity, he is exterminated. Until death, his life is such a special form of torture that he may suicide to escape it. Are you telling us that’s what you want for our children? You have such a disgusting viewpoint about the sexuality and existence of children for such purposes that you make us sick with your rationalizing, minimizing, and excuse making. Go to the faggot blogs – they’ll love you there. Your remarks make the rest of us wonder: Are you are a child molester yourself. This is exactly the same type of putrid absolving rational they use. WELL. ARE YOU ???

  91. Attacking me isn’t going to change facts. Heterosexuals are more likely to sexually abuse children than homosexuals.

  92. Children should not be coerced into unsuitable family situations. This only leads them into the mental LGBT ABC people lifestyle before they’re really old enough to make their own decisions of what is right or wrong (i.e. former president Obama and Chastity Bono).

    I’ve noticed many ABC people I’m familiar with, marry and end up divorced within 6 months. They also have higher physical abuse which usually aren’t reported. Young innocent adoptable children have already suffered from abuse or loss. Why expose them to these type families?

    If adoptive agencies wouldn’t charge so much, more children would be adopted by healthy families!

  93. I am so tired of your Christian agenda. Who gives you the right to force your beliefs on others while you are whining so loud that you think their rights are being forced on you? Most of you are so damn hypothetical. I read the Bible many times and I have never found a passage that gives you people the right to force others to follow your beliefs. That is exactly opposite what Jesus Christ was preaching. Sins are between you and your God and Man has no right to try to force another man not to sin. That is between the sinner and God and you are overstepping the teachings of your religion by trying to play God and force others not to sin.

  94. This is against a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN adoption Institution.
    The organization should NOT BE PERSECUTED FOR following ITS FAITH!
    They made their choice, it is not against them. They are wrong to go to GO AGAINST THE FIRST AMENDMENT;
    If they want to adopt…go somewhere else. This is just another ploy from the lgbt group!

  95. Don’t you think that the priests that are doing this are more than likely homosexual? They can’t be married and are not looking for female children to molest, so I would say that the priests are gay!


  97. Thank you so much for your comments. I am humbled by your words. Thank you for reminding all that Gods love is for everyone. Woo hoo Jesus.




  101. Sadly Satan’s LGBTQ group want to force their sinful agenda on Christians. However, there are some bigot Christians who want to encompass the LGBTQ for social reasons or they have members in their families who are among the LGBTQ. Man’s laws will not get sinner into God’s Kingdom.
    It is better to live your life as if there is a God,
    And die to find out there isn’t,
    Than live to live your life as if there isn’t,
    And die to find out there is. God bless

  102. We have gone over this before. What you are trying to pass as history is BS. Attending churches back then was not only for services but for meetings, which is what our Founding Fathers did. They did not require bibles in school in fact Thomas Jefferson specifically said not to put bibles in school:

    “Instead therefore of putting the Bible and Testament into the hands of the children, at an age when their judgments are not sufficiently matured for religious enquiries, their memories may here be stored with the most useful facts from Grecian, Roman, European and American history.”
    -Thomas Jefferson

    And installing chaplains in the military did not mean that THEY were Christians.

  103. The goal of christians and other religious people is to force the rest of us to accept their lifestyle.
    You can’t stand to see other people happy who have their own mind and don’t need to be sheep. You are no better than the Westboro Baptist Church members who picket the funerals of dead soldiers. You are so narrow minded and closed minded it is just sad to watch.

  104. So you follow the Old Testament as well, you don’t eat shrimp, lobster, crab, oysters or clams? You don’t wear mixed fabrics? YOu don’t wear pants? Do you keep your head covered? Do you not work on the Sabbath, including not cooking?

  105. John Wayne Gacy murdered homosexuals. You should be happy about that.
    Tell me all about the hundreds of priests who molested our children for thousands of years.

  106. What are you talking about? President Obama isn’t gay and Cher disowned Chaz Bono for a time when he came out. Cher now embraces her new son and regrets her knee jerk reaction to him at first.

  107. No, Christian adoption agencies should not have to allow same sex couples to adopt. They have every right to keep their values in their organization!

  108. Taking a EUPHEMISM “Not Crudely, But Literaly……in describing the Query

  109. The Catholic adoption agency in Massachusetts had to discontinue its service for this same reason. I say so be it, if a state decides to dictate terms to Christian organizations, discontinue the service and watched the system get overburdened.

  110. Kaci…It is very obvious that you have no concept at all of what the Bible teaches. Jesus FORBIDS homosexuality. He commands us to HATE all sin and God is very clear that homosexuality is a sin. You can misinterpret the Bible, but it just makes you a fool. And Jesus said that marriage is between a man and a woman.
    As for the Old Testament, those things you mentioned were JEWISH laws, which Jesus fulfilled when He came. Your ignorance is unbelievable, as you claim to know the Bible

  111. Again, you have no clue. A child has no say in the matter and living with perverts is going to only confuse the child about sexuality. You say that God is supposed to be about love. You have NO concept of God. There is NO supposed about it… He IS about love. But He hates sin and does not permit it.

  112. What I said is the truth. And statistics can always be made to have the outcome wanted if those doing it are not honest

  113. Really?????? I used to be a Republican and I voted for a couple of dems. But I will never vote for a dem again. They have become totally insane and full of hate

  114. This country was founded by Christians who left us a nation based on their Christian beliefs, one of which is your freedom. If you don’t agree with them, you have the freedom to move

  115. This nation was founded by Christians who gave us the RIGHT to worship God when and where we choose and based our laws on their Christian beliefs. So the lifestyle of love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness and helping others is bad to you. That is what Jesus teaches. But guess you much prefer the lifestyle of hate and intolerance, which come from satan

  116. You love them and pray for them. You show them the way to Jesus and His forgiveness. But you have no concept of who Jesus is. He loves everyone but does not condone sin.

  117. You have no clue. There are over 2 billion Christians. A Christian is a follower of Jesus. They are not perfect, but they are saved. YOU have the same chance to come to Jesus and spend eternity with Him in Heaven. It is your choice

  118. Jesus taught that God created Adam and Eve, and that marriage is between a man and a woman. But you should know that

  119. We also have freedom from religion which means you do not have the right to force your religious beliefs on us. If you don’t want to let same sex couples adopt children then get out of the adoption business. No one says you have to continue to work in that field if you don’t like the rules. Let people without your perverted views do the job if you can’t handle it.

  120. You people who believe homosexuality is a choice and not how you were born are just stupid. Sorry but there is no polite way to point out your lack of intelligence on the subject.

  121. He may command you to hate all sin but he does not command you to hate all sinners nor does he command you to try to force others not to sin. If you follow his true beliefs than hating a sinner is a sin and trying to force someone to follow his laws is a sin. You better read your Bible again and not listen to the few twisted priests that are trying to nitpick the Bible to force their own personal beliefs on you and not the true beliefs of Jesus Christ.

  122. Many of our founding fathers were atheists. And many remember the truth about how a country run by a religious faction usually has the most atrocities again other humans who do not believe in the state run religion. Our founding fathers did not want this mistake to be repeated in America and make sure by law that it would not happen here.

  123. The only preaching of hate is coming from the church and it patrons against people who live a life that the church doesn’t believe in. Keep your beliefs in your church and stop trying to make people who don’t believe in your church live by your rules

  124. Robert…the Constitution does not say anything about separation of church and state. That was only in a private letter. And our founding fathers were not concerned about it. The only thing they did not want was a national religion. NO, it has nothing at all to do with churches. And I am not Catholic and God is there for ALL who will come to Him. YOU get to choose to join Jesus in Heaven or satan in Hell. And it is very obvious that you have no concept at all of what the Bible teaches

  125. satan has them very confused. He will do all he can to mess with God’s creation and take as many to hell with him as he can.

  126. Libs have thrown God out and satan will reign. There will be hate and chaos and it is all falling into place.

  127. Robert…You have rejected God, yet presume to tell His people what to do. And I said nothing at all about hating sinners. Jesus commands us to love everyone and pray for the lost. And I am not Catholic. What makes you think I am?????? And if you have bothered to read the Bible you would know that no one can force anyone else to follow Jesus. It is a personal commitment between you and Him. YOU get to choose to follow Jesus to Heaven or satan to Hell. No one else can choose for you

  128. We don’t have to keep our beliefs in our church. The first amendment gives us the right to worship God when and where we choose. Our founding fathers gave us that freedom. They left us a nation based on their Christian beliefs. And what rules??? So you don’t believe in laws? You have the freedom to leave and live somewhere more to your liking.

  129. Abortion is taking away the right of the baby, who is a human being. Since you like murdering babies, guess your mother should have had one

  130. God forbids homosexuality, but if you really bothered to read the Bible, you would know that He does not forbid biracial marriages.

  131. I don’t know about Yeshua, it’s always been GOD and/or JESUS. But I am happy for you!! Praise GOD!!

  132. That is why they are trying to pass laws every day to force their Catholic beliefs on others. What rock have you been living under. There are already too many laws in America where they are forcing their warped sense of morality on people. Just because they do like it they don’t want to let anybody else do it.

  133. Robert…Jesus is back in Heaven where He came from and He is here for ALL who will come to Him. You have rejected Him and have no concept at all of who He is or His great love for you. I pity you. YOU have the same chance as everyone else to come to Him and be saved. Your choice. I know that I will spend eternity in Heaven. YOU will know that God is very real the moment you die. You can deny truth, but that does not change it

  134. WRONG!!!! MOST were Christians and ALL believed in God. There was not one atheist among them. Your ignorance is profound. Our founding fathers came here to be able to worship God as they chose, not as England dictated they had to.

  135. The more ethnic, gender, sexual, and religious minorities are elected, appointed, and/or hired into political and powerful positions the FASTER the US plummets down to TURD WORLD SH!THOLE status.

  136. It is your views which are perverted. Homosexuality is a freak of nature. It is unnatural. Guess you flunked science

  137. NO & nobody should be FORCED to do anything against their or belief. Separation of church & state ring a bell?
    These kinds of judges should be removed from the bench .

  138. Well Jesus die for all sinners an he said that sin is. Abomination which means God Hate he wants to save all that come to him an if you don’t come to him an you will die in your sin an you will spend ENTERAL in a lake of ???? we’re the worm die not an the fire never qunch this verse is in revlation

  139. David P. Graf, a conservative Christian, posted on the liberal website in 2013:

    “Before we conservative Christians even speak in public on sex, we ought to first get our own house in order. All the sex scandals involving prominent conservative Christians and politicians are nauseating.”

    Hear, hear!

    “I say this by way of concession, not as a regulation. I wish all men were as I [Paul] am [celibate]… but if they cannot restrain their passions, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to burn [with desire]…” (I Corinthians 7:6-9)

    “Make no mistake, no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers or drunkards or slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.” (I Corinthians 6:9-10 [NEB])

    “…let us put off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light. Let us behave ourselves decently as befits the daytime, not in carousing and drinking, not in immorality and debauchery, not in quarreling and jealousy. Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ; do not make provision for the flesh to gratify its cravings.” (Romans 13:12-14)

    “This is God’s will–your sanctification, that you keep yourselves from sexual immorality, that each of you learn how to take his own wife in purity and honor, not in lustful passion like the gentiles who have no knowledge of God.” (I Thessalonians 4:3-5)

    Paul told the gentiles to train themselves for godliness, to practice self-control and lead upright, godly lives (Galatians 5:23; I Timothy 4:7; II Timothy 1:7; Titus 2:11-12). He instructed them to ALWAYS pray constantly. (I Thessalonians 5:17)

    Women should cover their heads while worshipping, and long hair on males is dishonorable. (I Corinthians 11:5-14) Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (I Timothy 2:9)

    Liberals argue separation of church and state prevents theocracy and religious tyranny. Conservatives argue (the other side of the coin!) it also means the government (and I would add nonparishioners in general) cannot interfere in ecclesiastical affairs. In a 2004 broadcast, for example, Sean Hannity warned his audience of a future in which churches which fail to recognize same-sex marriages lose their tax exempt status.

    That being said, religion can and should have a voice in public affairs! Jimmy Carter is a deeply religious man, yet unlike many of his ideological opponents on the right, he can separate church from state, separate his religion from his politics. Jimmy Carter monitors elections in Latin America and teaches Sunday School in Plains, GA. Only a blithering idiot would confuse the two!

    My friend James Dawson, raised Catholic but now a Buddhist, published Live and Let Live, a pro-life, Libertarian, animal rights ‘zine from 1992 to 2003. When reviewing They Shall Not Hurt or Destroy, my book on religion and animal rights when it was still in manuscript form in April 1997, James took note of a statement the Reverend Marc Wessels, Executive Director of the International Network for Religion and Animals (INRA) made on Earth Day 1990:

    “It is a fact that no significant social reform has yet taken place in this country without the voice of the religious community being heard. The endeavors of the abolition of slavery; the women’s suffrage movement; the emergence of the pacifist tradition during World War I; the struggles to support civil rights, labor unions, and migrant farm workers; and the anti-nuclear and peace movements have all succeeded in part because of the power and support of organized religion. Such authority and energy is required by individual Christians and the institutional church today if the liberation of animals is to become a reality.”

    James saw nothing wrong with the statement itself, but warned about “religiously inspired activism” crossing the line into “theocratic bullying.”

    Let’s try and keep to the former!

  140. You can keep believing in your fairy tales and I will believe the truth I see around me. Jesus may have been a great man but very few Catholics follow his teachings. Most of them do not go by what he said and try to force what they believe on others as the word of God.

  141. You need to follow true history. They were not all Catholic church going people. Another falsehood perpetrated by those that push the church agenda.

  142. That is the dumbest comment I have ever heard. A biology book tells you what your body is like and how it works. It in no way tells you how you think and how you feel about anything. Brain function and personality are not one in the same You are the one showing no intelligence.

  143. But you believe your Bible does. There are things you like and things you don’t like. Can science tell you why? Can science tell you why other people like what you don’t or why they don’t like what you do? Everyone has their own reason for what they like and don’t like and having sex with who they want is exactly the same thing.

  144. The more mainstream religious people we get in office who try to pass laws to promote their Religion has been the downfall of many societies. And that is what the hell is happening in America right now.

  145. Schools don’t teach that homosexuality is unnatural. Sex is natural. Who you do it with is natural if both individuals agree to it. It is only an unnatural act in your mind because someone thousands of years ago told you it was wrong. Come out of the dark ages.

  146. All adoptions go through the court system so if you want separation of church and state then no religion has the right to force their views on any adoptions if the adopting parents pass the criteria. And it has never been a man and a woman only. Single people have been able to adopt.

  147. I believe in the creator but I subscribe to no manmade religion including Christianity. I also believe that a child should be raised in a household of a married man and woman. Marriage is one man and one woman. Variations are perversions and the participants perverted.

  148. Very good question. I bet the answer is my God and Bible tell me I am heterosexual. Most of these people can’t think for themselves, they only follow what they are told to do and how to think.

  149. Gay and Lesbian people have been around far longer than this Christian God. Christians did not invent marriage so what do they think gives them the right to decide who can be married? If you don’t want to marry same sex couples in your church then don’t. But don’t think you have the right to tell someone they can’t get married elsewhere.

  150. Let me see if I understand that thinking. Men having sex with men is homosexuality, but a priest having sex with an underage boy is only a pedophile. That must be some kind of Christian logic that I definitely can not understand. To my way of thinking he is a homosexual pedophile.

  151. I do not believe that a Christian organization should be forced to accept a lesbian or gay couple as a future adoption family… Just as I don’t believe that a LGBT organization should be forced to accept a Christian couple as a future adoption family. This LGBT couple who has caused this problem obviously cares more about their own agenda than about the children needing adoption. Why force a whole organization, who is trying hard to help children find families, to shut their doors. You knew full well this is what you were doing when you started this…So, you are actually hurting all of those children that you say you want to help. The Christian organization is not saying you cannot adopt children if you are gay or lesbian. They are just saying that they cannot of good conscience accept you as one of the families that THEY place children with. We are not Catholic, but we took foster/adoption training through a Catholic organization. They did not try to force their beliefs on us. It was very evident that they truly cared about the children they would be placing and wanted to make sure that prospective foster/adoption parents were well prepared for what so many of these children have gone through. If you truly want to adopt children, then why can’t you go through a nonreligious organization? Is it because the whole purpose of this was to promote your agenda and to try and bring down organizations who have been helping these children in need for ages? Truthfully, I think the LGBT couple who approached this organization (knowing full well they would be rejected) should be horribly ashamed of themselves! Christians do not hate LGBT individuals. Just as with any other sin, we are taught to love the sinner but hate the sin. I have known several wonderful, loving, caring individuals who are gay in my lifetime. I would not hesitate to let them watch or care for one of my children. I don’t believe they would try to force a child to be gay. They are very compassionate individuals with a lot of wisdom in many diverse areas. It is my personal opinion (and it weighs no more or less than any other personal opinion) that a home with a loving and caring mom and dad is God’s best… and should be given first consideration… but if that is not available and there are so many children in the system who need SOMEONE to love them and care for them … then why not let a single mom or a single dad, or a lesbian or gay couple provide a home and the love of a family? …if the child/children are comfortable with the placement. This should not be about religious organizations vs. LGBT. It should be about helping these children find a loving family and a place they can settle down in and call home.

  152. First let me ask you if you are Gay, Lesbian or straight? If you are not one of the first two then you have no idea how the Christians would have treated you had you been and tried to foster or adopt a child. You say don’t hate the sinner but hate the sin. Where does it say in the Bible that you have the right to decide how to treat a sinner? It doesn’t give anyone the right to decide how anyone else should live and what they have a right to do. If you are an adoption agency it is your job to find qualified parents not decide by your beliefs who has the right to adopt.

  153. Wow1 what a deal! And to think that if this trend continues, I will be able to legally adopt my female Rottweiler and enroll her in Obamacare. That will save me a ton of money not having to pay those exorbitant veterinary bills!!!!

  154. Not quite.

    1st Amendment
    Establishment Clause
    The First Amendment’s Establishment Clause prohibits the government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” This clause not only forbids the government from establishing an official religion but also prohibits government actions that unduly favor one religion over another. It also prohibits the government from unduly preferring religion over non-religion or non-religion over religion.

  155. When did Jesus forbid homosexuality? Tell me the exact words that Jesus said against homosexuals.

  156. Christians called interracial couples perverted and against god. There were laws against them even getting married by you Christians. 52 years ago the Supreme Court’s Loving v. Virginia case that struck down laws prohibiting interracial marriage. But the laws were still against them adopting for decades after that.

    Christians just need something/someone to hate. You twisted the bible to justify your hate. When you could no longer justify your hatred for interracial couples, you moved on to homosexual couples. I am guessing when the old white people die off, that society will forget all about your homophobic ideas and start loving everyone as it should be.

  157. I know that, but you Christians didn’t. That was why the Supreme Court had to take a stand and tell you Christians that interracial couples are legal.

  158. No, what you believe to be true isn’t facts. I gave you facts, but you ignore that because of the hatred in your heart. I feel sorry for you.

  159. You keep saying that Jesus forbids it, yet you have not given me one verse that stated that Jesus said… about homosexuality. Either give me a verse, just one or stop your lies.

  160. Since it hasn’t taken its first breath yet, it is still not considered a human being yet. So says the medical doctors, biology and the Supreme Court.

    The 14th Amendment gives women the right to chose an abortion if that is what is right for her. Are you really trying to take away women’s constitutional rights?

    I see you are still not grasping the whole “choice” thing. Pro-choice people do not want women to have abortions, but we do support whatever they chose for themselves. What do you have against women supporting other women? Do you hate women that much?

  161. I do not deny facts. Something that you seem to keep doing. But you keep doing you. Your inability to know the difference between facts and truth is astounding.

  162. I just love when Americans tell other Americans if they don’t like something to move. Ignoring the whole basis on which this nation was founded on.

  163. Nope. Wrong. This country was not founded by Christians. More than half were non-Christians. I can prove that with just two words, the Constitution, better still the very first amendment. If this country was founded by Christians, then why is the very first amendment guarantees freedoms concerning religion. It forbids Congress from both promoting one religion over others and also restricting an individual’s religious practices. If this country was founded by Christians, then why are we not a Christian country?

  164. Wrong again. America does not base its laws on Christian beliefs.

    1. The Constitution prohibits the use of religious tests as a qualification for public office.
    2. Rhode Island became the first colony with no established church and the first to grant religious freedom to everyone, including Quakers and Jews.
    3. The First Amendment established a separation of church and state that prohibited the federal government from making any law “respecting an establishment of religion.” It also prohibits the government, in most cases, from interfering with a person’s religious beliefs or practices.
    4. The Fourteenth Amendment extended religious freedom by preventing states from enacting laws that would advance or inhibit any one religion.
    5. The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that two large, framed copies of the Ten Commandments in Kentucky courthouses violated the First Amendment.

  165. I love how you keep assuming that I don’t know the concept of who Jesus was. It makes me laugh.

  166. Take your own advice and read a biology book.

    A linkage between DNA markers on the X chromosome and male sexual orientation.

    What do the new ‘gay genes’ tell us about sexual orientation?

    Biology and sexual orientation

  167. They are not forcing their way of thinking on anyone. As an adoption agency, they are responsible before God for what they do; they look for the best couples, and that means a man and a woman. Children need both. Aside from the Biblical concept of a family, it is best to place a child with a married heterosexual couple. This is not some crazy johnny-come-lately concept. God established marriage and family, and throughout human history and all cultures, this is the norm.

  168. Pedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. It isn’t the sex of the child they are after. People sometimes mistakenly interpret the perpetrator’s sexual orientation.

    As an expert panel of researchers convened by the National Academy of Sciences noted in a 1993 report: “The distinction between homosexual and heterosexual child molesters relies on the premise that male molesters of male victims are homosexual in orientation. Most molesters of boys do not report sexual interest in adult men, however” (National Research Council, 1993, p. 143).

    The distinction between a victim’s gender and a perpetrator’s sexual orientation is important because many child molesters don’t really have an adult sexual orientation. They have never developed the capacity for mature sexual relationships with other adults, either men or women. Instead, their sexual attractions focus on children – boys, girls, or children of both sexes.

    Homosexuals are generally not pedophiles and pedophiles are not generally homosexuals. The two are not interchangeable.

  169. Cherry picking history to try to prove your case isn’t facts. I give you statements that have been proven to be our Founding Founders words and you still ignore them. How sad is that?

  170. My mother did, it just wasn’t when she was carrying me. But thanks for the wishing I was dead comment. I can really see Christ in you.

  171. Tell me the book and verse that Jesus stated that he was against homosexuality.

    I never said that Jesus stated that. I clearly stated that Christians used the bible to justify their bigotry against interracial couples.

    The trial judge who was over the Loving case in 1958 stated this as record:

    Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, Malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And, but for the interference with his arrangement, there would be no cause for such marriage. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.


  172. No Dana Nessel just because you like to dine at the Y do not shove it down every God Fearing Christians throat the State should not interfere in how an Adoption Agency conducts their screening of potential parents Michigan has gone to hell in a hand basket they have the Ragheads taking over Detroit and growing and selling pot legally and now a Dike AG telling people they “HAVE TO DO” I say close all private Agency’s turn all the kids over to the State let them House, feed, cloth and educate them and see how quick the state come BEGGING back that they caused a SNAFU

  173. Society has no rights to stop same sex people from being together and nature sure as hell doesn’t care what same sex couples do. So there is only the threat to the Christian Morality that is left. That is no reason to disallow them from adopting. If the State took over all adoptions then we wouldn’t have this issue because all qualified candidates would be adopting children without all this religious interference.

  174. Cornell is an ivy league college, that ranks right up there with Brown, Harvard, Princeton, Dartmouth, Yale, Columbia universities and the University of Pennsylvania. Cornell is the 19th best university in the world and 11th best university in the United States, according to the World University Ranking 2019 by The Times Higher Education. Cornell is also ranked the last among the Ivy League by U.S. News, taking the 16th spot on the national list. It scored 97.4 percent in citations, the highest score it received in a category. U.S. News ranked Cornell 10th in the undergraduate business program, 9th in engineering programs and 5th in biological/agricultural programs. Times Higher Education group rated Cornell as having the world’s 14th best life sciences subjects, 16th best social sciences subjects, 20th engineering and technology programs and 25th arts and humanities subjects. Reviews and ratings of this school from students, alumni, staff and others is 4.9 out of 5. Tell me again what you have against Cornell besides you just don’t like it’s results.

    The word is discrimination. You cannot discriminate against a group of people. It is against the law. Remember about rights. Your rights end where someone else’s begin. Simply put, my right to swing my fist ends where your nose begins.

  175. So, another deity made Steve?

    You are entitled to your own opinion. I am just thankful that you don’t make the laws.

  176. The first two sentences clearly state:

    We identified 79 scholarly studies that met our criteria for adding to knowledge about the well-being of children with gay or lesbian parents. Of those studies, 75 concluded that children of gay or lesbian parents fare no worse than other children.

    Here is more data:

    Gay parents “tend to be more motivated, more committed than heterosexual parents on average, because they chose to be parents,” said Abbie Goldberg, a psychologist at Clark University in Massachusetts who researches gay and lesbian parenting. Gays and lesbians rarely become parents by accident, compared with an almost 50 percent accidental pregnancy rate among heterosexuals, Goldberg said. “That translates to greater commitment on average and more involvement.”

    Research shows that children in same-sex families tend to less aggressive and more understanding than children in a heterosexual family.

  177. Really???? Please give me the verse where it says that. GOD made Eve from Adam’s rib while he was asleep, so Adam had nothing at all to do with it.

  178. Robert…You can deny truth but that in no way changes it. I know that Jesus is there, as do over 2 billion others who have done what you refuse to do. But you have the choice to believe satan’s lies. I have personally known people who saw Heaven as they were dying

  179. It is not opinion. A business has the right to refuse service. Try walking into a business with no shoes on and see how far you get

  180. Kaci…I have no hate. I follow God’s rules, not yours. And what I said is the truth ANYONE can be guiltily of molesting a child, even other children. That is a true statement. I know firsthand that a 12-year-old daughter of a neighbor was molesting other children in their garage. But go ahead and believe the lies of your lib leaders and ignore the truth

  181. If you really knew what the Bible teaches you would know that Jesus forbids ALL sin and God clearly says homosexuality is a sin. And Jesus says that marriage is between a man and a woman.

    And if God never intended for the races to mix, tell me why He blessed the marriage of Ruth and Boaz and that Jesus was descended from them.
    And why are you calling God Almighty when you have rejecte Him?

  182. It is very clear that you know nothing at all about Christians. All Christians I know know very well that God does not forbid interracial marriages.

  183. You claim to be an expert on the Bible yet have no clue what it teaches. Jesus forbids ALL sin. Period. Homosexuality is a sin. Period. God is very clear about that. But just keep misinterpreting it to suit what you want to believe and never mind the truth

  184. You deny the fact that our Founding Fathers were Christians and did not put separation of church and state in our Constitution. They themselves had no problem mixing church and state, as I have already stated

  185. You have no concept of who our founding fathers were. You deny that they were Christians, yet that is what MOST of them were. They fled England to be able to worship God as they chose, not as England said they had to . But go ahead and deny history

  186. You are very wrong. NOT ONE Christian I know ever called interracial couples perverted. I have relatives who married other races and it has never been a problem. And God DOES call homosexuality perverted. It is written several times in the Bible you pretend to know. And I hate to break it to you, but I know lots of YOUNG white people who believe what God says about homosexuality. You are proving your own hate and racism

  187. I have no need to give them to you. I couldn’t care less if you believe me or not. What I said is truth, but you attack me for telling the truth.

  188. YOU are very sick. Jesus teaches us love, compassion, tolerance, forgiveness and helping others. If that is child abuse, you are extremely confused and messed up

  189. Most people who are LGBTQ have two straight parents. So whose screwing who up. A great number of those same straight parents abandon their LGBTQ children because of their “Christian” values. The US does not have a national religion, and it should not have one. We do not have Biblical law for the same reason we disapprove of Sharia law. I know many LGBTQ couples who are/would be better parents then most of the straight “Christian” people I know. Also, if you are against abortion, then you should be happy that a child would be adopted in to a loving, stable and supportive family. Even, if they are a bit different than you. It really is not very Christian to discriminate against people. That is NOT something Jesus would do!

  190. Try actually reading real history. MOST were Christians. That is a fact. You keep denying facts and live in fantasyland. Yes, our founding fathers gave us FREEDOM. Freedom comes from God. They wanted all to be able to worship God as they wanted to, not as England said they had to. That is why they came here. NOTHING you said proves in any way that they were not Christians. ALL of their documents mention God and they left us a nation based on that.

  191. The first amendment does not mention the separation of church and state. It ONLY prohibits the government from establishing a state religion.
    Our founding fathers would not agree with the SC’s rule. They had no problem at all with the Bible or any part of it in courthouses or anywhere else. They required Bibles in schools and attended church services in the Capitol Building. FACT.

  192. Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson in August 1776: “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
    John Adams …
    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
    “The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity, and humanity.”
    The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. John Quincy Adams
    Noah Webster…The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles, which enjoins humility, piety, and benevolence; which acknowledges in every person a brother, or a sister, and a citizen with equal rights. This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free Constitutions of Government.
    “We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His kingdom come.” Samuel Adams, as the Declaration of Independence was being signed, 1776.
    patrick henry…
    In a letter to his daughter dated August 20, 1796, he wrote:
    “Amongst other strange things said of me, I hear it is said by the deists that I am one of the number; and indeed, that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory; because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politics; and I find much cause to reproach myself that I have lived so long, and have given no decided and public proofs of my being a Christian. But, indeed, my dear child, this is a character which I prize far above all this world has, or can boast.”
    On his death bed, Patrick Henry said:
    “Doctor, I wish you to observe how real and beneficial the religion of Christ is to a man about to die….I am, however, much consoled by reflecting that the religion of Christ has, from its first appearance in the world, been attacked in vain by all the wits, philosophers, and wise ones, aided by every power of man, and its triumphs have been complete.”

  193. Guess you would rather this country was founded by Muslims. You would have NO freedom at all. You would be facing Mecca five times a day to pray and be treated like an animal, as women have no rights. You attack Christians but have no concept that your very freedom comes from God who gave it to you.

  194. If that’s true, then science can not prove you are straight then. Sadly, for you, there is evidence of genes playing a role in sexual identity and gender identity. There is also the effects of the amount of testosterone and estrogen in utero during pregnancy that effects these things. Also, there are environmental issues that can exacerbate a tendency created by the circumstances stated above. In some cases environment alone a cause a child to identify as a particular sexual and/or gender identity. These are not fixable and occur in nature. This has been proven by year of scientific study. I recommend researching and studying to educate yourself on such things so that you don’t appear to be such a fool. I’m sure being a fool is the last thing you want to be. Good luck with your research!!!

  195. I DO follow true history. ???? Of course they were not all Catholic. There are other Christian religions. It seems that you do not know that.

  196. It is very obvious that you don’t. If you did, you would have applied what you read. And Jesus IS, not was. You will know that the moment you die.

  197. See reply below….B.J. bless your heart! I’m not sure where you got your education but most of the founding fathers were actually atheists. I would recommend some study on your part. Something on a higher level than primary school.

  198. You are very sick and sad. You have no concept at all of what the Bible teaches. You are wrong. And God gave us all minds to think for ourselves. YOU get to choose whether to follow Jesus to Heaven or satan to hell. And no one is born homosexual. Read a biology book

  199. I did the research. There is no homosexual gene. And just because something occurs in nature does not mean anything. Homosexuality is a freak of nature. Two-headed turtles occur in nature, two, but they are not normal.

  200. You are wrong. MOST were Christians. That is a fact. Try actually doing some research. They fled England so they could WORSHIP GOD AS THEY CHOSE. FACT. Your ignorance is profound. I am a college graduate and studied history. Sorry your history was rewritten by libs who hate the truth.

    Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson in August 1776: “Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to God.”
    John Adams …
    “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”
    “The Christian religion is, above all the religions that ever prevailed or existed in ancient or modern times, the religion of wisdom, virtue, equity, and humanity.”
    The highest glory of the American Revolution was this: it connected in one indissoluble bond the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity. John Quincy Adams
    Noah Webster…The religion which has introduced civil liberty is the religion of Christ and His apostles, which enjoins humility, piety, and benevolence; which acknowledges in every person a brother, or a sister, and a citizen with equal rights. This is genuine Christianity, and to this we owe our free Constitutions of Government.
    “We have this day restored the Sovereign to Whom all men ought to be obedient. He reigns in heaven and from the rising to the setting of the sun, let His kingdom come.” Samuel Adams, as the Declaration of Independence was being signed, 1776.
    patrick henry…
    In a letter to his daughter dated August 20, 1796, he wrote:
    “Amongst other strange things said of me, I hear it is said by the deists that I am one of the number; and indeed, that some good people think I am no Christian. This thought gives me much more pain than the appellation of Tory; because I think religion of infinitely higher importance than politics; and I find much cause to reproach myself that I have lived so long, and have given no decided and public proofs of my being a Christian. But, indeed, my dear child, this is a character which I prize far above all this world has, or can boast.”
    On his death bed, Patrick Henry said:
    “Doctor, I wish you to observe how real and beneficial the religion of Christ is to a man about to die….I am, however, much consoled by reflecting that the religion of Christ has, from its first appearance in the world, been attacked in vain by all the wits, philosophers, and wise ones, aided by every power of man, and its triumphs have been complete.”

  201. You will know that Jesus is very real the moment you die. But you can know that now. You have the same choice as everyone else to come to Jesus and accept Him as your Savior. You have rejected Him and fallen for satan’s lies. It is satan who brought all sin into the world, including sexual sin.

  202. You have no concept of what Jesus would do, as you have rejected Him. And our very founding documents are based on God’s laws. Your very freedom comes from God who gave it to us. Be very thankful this country was founded by Christians and not Muslims. There is no freedom in Islam. You would be facing Mecca five times a day to pray and if you did not submit to Allah you would die.

  203. ????? Since God has always been and He created us, what you said is extremely ignorant. No, Christians did not invent marriage…God did. He created a man and a woman and told them to go out and populate the earth. Homosexuals cannot do that. And you can get “married” anywhere you want. But God will have the last word.

  204. I believe you are misunderstanding the law. You cannot discriminate against a group of people, Jews, blacks, women, gays, lesbians, transgenders, Christians, Muslims, Atheists, etc. You can choose to not serve an individual for things, being loud, abusive, not wearing shoes, not wearing clothes, but not for their religious beliefs, race, gender or sexual orientations. Now, do you understand the law of discrimination?

  205. Again you are assuming that the Founding Fathers were all Christian. And again you would be incorrect. The First Amendment, more specifically the Establishment Clause. Neither a state nor the Federal Government can, openly or secretly, participate in the affairs of any religious organizations or groups and vice versa. In the words of Jefferson, the clause against establishment of religion by law was intended to erect ‘a wall of separation between church and State.

  206. Is English your second language because apparently, you cannot read what I wrote. I wrote: “And statistics show that child molestation is done more by heterosexuals, than homosexuals.” That has nothing to do with children molesting other children nor does it say that only certain people molest children. I agree with you, anyone can molest a child. With that said now read these next words carefully, HETEROSEXUALS MOLEST CHILDREN MORE THAN HOMOSEXUALS. That doesn’t mean that homosexuals do not molest children. What I am saying is that just because you are homosexual doesn’t mean that you are going to molest children. It was a myth passed around to scare the mass population.

  207. Nothing you said proves anything. The evidence is not there, just in your wishful thinking. Mayer and McHugh, just for a couple, deny what you said. No one is born homosexual or transgender. But you mentioned environmental issues. I know three men who are homosexual and all were attached to one parent over the other and did not get along well at all with the other. I have heard other instances where this is true. I am not denying that environment may have something to do with it. Much more study needs to be done

  208. Muslims are now in our government. The goal of Islam is TOTAL world control. Either you serve Allah or die. But guess that is fine since they are not Christians. Freedom comes from God. There is no freedom in Islam

  209. Sorry to break it to you, but Obamacare is going to be, rightfully so, a thing of the past. Stand by on the legal adoption of your Rottweiler…

  210. Rejection and lack of belief are two different things. You can’t reject something that you don’t believe exists.
    Do you reject bigfoot, Santa Clause and the tooth fairy or is it the lack of belief that they exist?

  211. I know that and you know that, but for hundreds of years, society tried to justify the forbidden of interracial marriage as against god and the bible.

  212. You will know that God is very real the moment you die. And God gave us science to study His wondrous creation. There are many mentions of science in the Bible. And science is proving the truth of the Bible

  213. Tell me where Jesus states that homosexuality is a sin. You keep saying that Jesus said it is, so prove it. Where does Jesus say, verbatim, that homosexuality is a sin?

  214. Why do you even bother to come on here? This is a Christian discussion board and you know nothing at all about who Jesus is or His great love for you

  215. “Separation of church and state” is paraphrased from Thomas Jefferson and used by others in expressing an understanding of the intent and function of the Establishment Clause and Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    The phrase “separation between church & state” is generally traced to a January 1, 1802, letter by Thomas Jefferson, addressed to the Danbury Baptist Association in Connecticut and published in a Massachusetts newspaper. Jefferson wrote,

    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should “make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,” thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.”

  216. I do not deny facts. You rely on emotion and your truth, which is not that same thing as fact.

    The majority of our Founding Fathers were deists. They believed in little or none of the miracles and supernaturalism inherent in the Judeo-Christian tradition.

  217. I don’t believe in Satan either. So how could I believe lies of something that doesn’t exist? If they died how could they tell you they were seeing heaven?

  218. Then why were interracial couples against the law? How did society justify making it illegal for two races to marry?

  219. What the hell makes you think our founding fathers wanted the 10 commandments displayed publicly?

  220. Without a single Democratic name that you voted for that you are willing to tell me, it is awful hard to believe you.

  221. To not allow a child to have its own views and to force a child to believe in yours is wrong. You force a child to believe in something that it cannot see, touch, smell, hear or taste with no proof whatsoever, that is child abuse.

  222. When you posted this statement:

    “Since you like murdering babies, guess your mother should have had one”

    Then you implied you wanted me dead.

  223. My mother did have that choice and she chose not to with me. How is what you said to me any different than your fight against abortion? You say that you are against abortion because it is “murder” yet you are wishing others to die because they disagree with you.

  224. If freedom came from God then nothing would be a sin. If he gave freedom of choice then how in the hell can he then say “But you can’t do this.” That would be taking away your freedom of choice. Man gives man freedom God demands blind followers to do and say only what he wants.

  225. By today’s social definition of Christianity, a good portion of our Founding Fathers were not Christians. They were Deists. They did not believe in miracles or the supernatural.

    Deism complicates the actual beliefs of the Founders. Drawing from the scientific and philosophical work of such figures as Jean-Jacques Rousseau, Isaac Newton, and John Locke, Deists argued that human experience and rationality—rather than religious dogma and mystery—determine the validity of human beliefs. In his widely read The Age of Reason, Thomas Paine, the principal American exponent of Deism, called Christianity “a fable.” Paine, the protégé of Benjamin Franklin, denied “that the Almighty ever did communicate anything to man, by…speech,…language, or…vision.” Postulating a distant deity whom he called “Nature’s God” (a term also used in the Declaration of Independence), Paine declared in a “profession of faith”:

    “I believe in one God, and no more; and I hope for happiness beyond this life. I believe in the equality of man; and I believe that religious duties consist in doing justice, loving mercy, and in endeavoring to make our fellow-creatures happy.”

    Founders who fall into the category of Deists include Washington, John Adams, and, Thomas Jefferson. Jefferson was more influenced by the reason-centred Enlightenment than either Adams or Washington.

    The Enlightenment was a period of history from 1715 to 1789. What took place was a revolutionary intellectual movement, where new ideas centred on reason became prominent, and old ideas were challenged. Many ideas that became popular then are the ideas much of western civilization is now based on. Enlightenment thinkers were keen on the scientific method, and reductionism, and questioning religious dogma.

    Examples: George Washington refused to receive communion in his adult life. Non-Christian Deists such as Paine refused to use Judeo-Christian terminology and described God with such expressions as “Providence,” “the Creator,” “the Ruler of Great Events,” and “Nature’s God.”

  226. God did not create Man. Man created Gods. Back before Man had any intelligence or sense of how the world worked He thought up a superior being because he didn’t know how nature worked. And there are still some of you after thousands of years of science telling you how life is and why that you still think some figment that a cave man thought up is real.

  227. Yes, they had church in the Capitol Building, but not at the same time they were legislating and not the same church services but community meetings. They used buildings for multiple uses so they didn’t have to have separate buildings for each use. They used what buildings they had available.

    Thomas Jefferson clearly stated that he didnt’ want the bibles in schools. I have posted this before, which you continue to ignore.

    For Jefferson, the instruction of biblical or Christian doctrine took a back seat to the more important lessons of ancient history and philosophy. As Jefferson stated:

    “Instead therefore of putting the Bible and Testament into the hands of the children, at an age when their judgments are not sufficiently matured for religious inquiries, their memories may here be stored with the most useful facts from Grecian, Roman, European and American history.”

  228. You don’t seem to be able to understand sense. You don’t believe in any sense but your own.

  229. God didn’t give me freedom, man did. If it was up to god, I would still be in bondage, treated as a secondary person and be submissive to men. Women would be allowed to get a divorce even if the husband beat her. Women wouldn’t be allowed to speak outside of their home. Women wouldn’t be allowed to have their own money, have their own bank account, their own credit, not have jobs, not have the choice for themselves if they wanted to have children (not talking about abortion here) or not. Be someone’s property, first her father’s then her husband’s. Women wouldn’t be allowed to vote. Women wouldn’t be allowed to have their own name.

  230. I have the freedom to move out of this country and also the freedom to not move. I, alone, can make that decision. But to tell someone to move out of this country just because you disagree with them is just silly and wrong. It goes against our Constitution.

  231. Of you will know the moment when you die that you wasted your whole life following something that doesn’t exist. But still, I support your decision to believe in whatever you wish to believe in. We all have to be something. So you continue being you.

  232. No species has been found in which homosexual behavior has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphids. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue.

  233. First, no religion is our government or in our government. People of all different faiths are members of our government. Second, Sharia Law only applies to people of the Muslum faith. It no more applies to you than Halakhah law applies to non-Jews or Canon law applies to non-Catholics. Stop spreading these lies.

  234. The Affordable Healthcare Act is more favorable now than it was when it first started. Unless we go single payer healthcare, Obamacare is here to stay.

  235. I choose to know very little about the Muslim religion, but I have ‘picked up’ that homosexuality isn’t tolerated. That means you’re killed in that religion.

  236. One thing I learned from a child……GOD NEVER CHANGES. He is yesterday, today and tomorrow the same! Same sex marriage, according to the Word Of God, is SINS OF THE FLESH and can be forgiven, but it is a SIN. If GOD was right back then, He still is right today. He never change s!

  237. The child being adopted should have a say in the matter. But, babies aren’t talking yet.
    The person giving the child up for adoption should have a say in the matter. How can anyone throw an innocent child into a same-sex family without considering the child’s future?
    I hope this is just another stupid fad.

  238. These same sex couples are always trying to cause trouble. There are other adoption agencies that they could adopt children from. This is just like these Christian based bakeries. There are other bakeries that these “people” could go to but instead they want to cause trouble for the Christian bakeries. Now I see that they are wanting to do the very same thing with the adoption agencies. Of course Jesus did say in the end times you would be hated for his name sake; and it is happening just like he said in Matthew 24.

  239. It is not the same sex couples that are causing the problem. It is you Christians thinking that your God gave you the rights to punish a sinner. According to your Bible that is His job when you pass away. It also says that it is a sin to punish a sinner. So you are going against your own God by trying to punish someone who sins against your God. God hates hypocrites and you who try to punish others will face your sins when you stand in front of your God

  240. The Holy Scriptures has much to say about how children are to be brought up and taught and nowhere does it say they should be taught to become homosexual or to accept the idea of homosesuality !!! It does call Homosexuality an abomination, that is all you need to know !!!1

  241. They are not private sector.

    I quote, “agencies looking to partner with the state cannot turn away or refuse a same-sex couple or individual who is suitable to foster or adopt a child.” I assume they except public money for their services, as well.


  243. Anyone can file a suit against this pervert official….No ONE can tell agencies who can adopt these children…..If Christian agencies don’t want gays and other perverts to adopt their children no official can tell them differently…Check it out for the no believers…The gay guy is WRONG>>>>>Persecution against Christians…..Separation of church and state?????

  244. I pretty sure that a lot people are sorry for who they voted in last November. Miciganis spinning arpound the comode slipping in for another Jennie flush.

  245. The definition of a couple is screwed up. A Male and a Female . A couple of guys or a couple of girls is a count

  246. Won’t happen the azzes voted in her and the Muslim from Detroit plus a few other women to run Michigan in the ground. We’re heading back to where Jennifer G left us aftet her wonderful administration of eight years.
    Same people different hair color same train of thought. I guess the people didn’t learn the first time.

  247. Yes; it is right to love the sinner, but NOT the sin. Therefore, the sin should not be accommodated for any reason. Stop stepping on our Christian/Catholic beliefs. You have no right to do so. BACK OFF.

  248. Jeff: I’m sorry you don’t know about YESHUA! That is what HE was called in
    the Days that HE walked the earth! HE is also called the”CHRIST”, which means
    “THE ANNOINTED ONE or MESSIAH. Either way, whether you call HIM one or the other name, & lovingly Praise HIM, HE is happy w/you! Praising the LORD
    (which HE is also called) brings blessings into your life. (just like ‘praising your wife…You get more good response from her, more willing to do things for you, love you more, more kindness, etc,etc.) We speak of the TRINITY as GOD THE FATHER, GOD THE SON, & GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT! THEY are three in one. IF you get into reading the NEW TESTAMENT, you will discover more @ this. I reccomend starting w/the New Testament if you have never read the HOLY BIBLE. Actually an ‘Amplified version of the Bible is easier to understand than the King James version. (I reccomend this version if you are new to reading the BIBLE.)

  249. Do they accept Govt funding? No….
    Then NO they cannot be FORCED to do anything.
    The state should open their own adoption clinics, if people “choose” to use them and accept any Govt benefits, you can adopt a child there as a same sex couple.
    What doesn’t the zealot AG not get about the word “Private”
    The new bully culture of the LBGT community and leftist ideology on display.

  250. Great story proves without a doubt that being gay is a total chose and I might add from the devil you CANNOT be gay and walk with the Lord

  251. Kaci you can’t tell me that a child raised by 2 “moms” can possibly not become as screwed up in the head as the 2 “moms” are it’s bad enough that they are ruled by satan don’t indoctrinate a child with that kind of living

  252. It’s a sickness, running wild in America. It can be treated, but the political correctness ruins any chance
    of it being treated as a mental illness.
    I don’t identify this lady as a normal
    human being, because she’s sick, and she’s pushing her chances of a normal
    life. She will have regrets later in life,
    and whoever she’s with will probably
    suffer also.

  253. FYI: The American Psychiatric Association (APA) declassified homosexuality as a mental disease in 1987.

    So you can disagree with her sexual orientation all you want, but to claim it as a mental illness is just plain wrong.

  254. Michel, I am so very happy for you. Jesus came softly knocking on the door to your heart. And you let him in. Thru Bible studying and prayer you grew in the Lord. And you are forgiven and set free. Keep your faith and continue your path and walk with Jesus. God bless you. He indeed loves us all.

  255. You are early right. That law she is trying to place needs to be just the oposite.
    Every time you see something like this ,it makes you sick .The black Muslim terrorist is to be thanks for all this.


  257. Retired law enforcement now but had to deal with several domestic assaults and male or female was brutal in attacks on one of the other. If these people have the opposite life style than 98% of the world then they need not ask for children…. They passed that phase of life Style when they became the other side.
    Never, never demand me to like or say on anything I see as normal life…. They are being put into positions to change the world which will put them in sight of those that get tired of the BS.

  258. Yes….but I dont believe they or anyone has the right to do what they want. Maybe in their bedrooms ?

  259. Now that lgbt month is over is it proper to refer to them as faggots and queers or do they have different names?

  260. The trinity is not in the Bible. It was unacceptable by the early church fathers. It started as a duality not a trinity. Much later the Holy Spirit was added. Matching the pagan tri-god religions. Trinitarians have modified verses like John 1:1 to fit their doctrine. However numerous scriptures disprove the trinity.

  261. I feel this way. Nobody should force a religeous entity to do anything that’s against their beliefs. There are state run adoption centers. Try there !!!!!

  262. Well put. And as read in the Good Book, we are all sinners and have come short of His Glory and He loves us all. That is why Jesus died for our sins. He wants us to help each other not disparage or vilify. Sin is sin but love conquers all.
    The Goid Book is our guideline and I believe that there is nothing or no one greater than Jesus.

  263. Leftists are for diversity as long as everyone is just like them and for freedom of speech as long as everyone says what they want to say.

  264. That’s one line I never should have crossed God will be upset with Alan I guarantee you this is still a Christian nation it’s time everybody speaks up and says hey you’re a Democrat shame on you for trying to destroy America and did you know the Democrats stand for what God stands against must suck to be a dumb Democrat

  265. It saddens me that some people or religious groups are being forced to go against their conscience or their beliefs. Have we become so Politically correct that that a small few determine the majority? Is the actor Kevin Sorbo right when some people use the word tolerance it is really to be tolerant of their own views but not others?

  266. God made Adam and Eve, Not Adam and Steve or Amanda and Eve, the Bible says DO NOT LAY WITH MAN AS MAN DOES WITH WOMAN, IT IS AN ABOMINATION, LEVITICUS 18:22, Got a Problem with That then Take it Up With GOD!!!!

  267. So, another deity made Steve and Amanda?

    If you are going to reference Leviticus 18:22 and follow it to the letter, there are 859 verses in the book of Leviticus. Why don’t you adhere as strictly to the other 858?

    Let’s look at some more laws from Leviticus:

    Leviticus 11:10 reads, “And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you”. When was the last time you ate shrimp or crab or lobster?

    Leviticus 19:28 reads, “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the Lord.” So, no tattoos. All those crucifixes and “Jesus Saves” tattoos will have to go.

    Leviticus 19:27 reads “You shall not round off the side-growth of your heads nor harm the edges of your beard”. For all you men who shave their heads and beards, you are an abomination and going to hell.

    Leviticus 11:7-8 reads “And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven-footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you”. This means NO pork roasts, no bacon, and sorry people, no ham ‘n cheese sandwiches!

    Leviticus 15: 1-3 “The Lord said to Moses and Aaron, “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When any man has a bodily discharge, the discharge is unclean. Whether it continues flowing from his body or is blocked, it will make him unclean. This is how his discharge will bring about uncleanness”. Yuck. Sorry boys. You’ll have to cancel that subscription to Playboy.

    Leviticus 19:31 reads “Do not turn to mediums or spiritists; do not seek them out to be defiled by them. I am the Lord your God.” Translated, no horoscopes, no psychics and no fortune tellers allowed.

    Leviticus 19:16 goes “Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people”. No gossiping! No Heat magazine! Oh, the horror!

    Oh, and for all the farmers out there, there is a verse just for you: Leviticus 19:19 “Keep my decrees. Do not mate different kind of animals. do not plant your field with two kinds of seed” So you’d better not be letting your cows graze with your goats or planting pumpkin and cucumber seeds in the same field.

    Lastly, no bible would be complete without a fashion guide. God orders you to go with long hair, and not to shave. (Lev.19:27)

    More importantly, you may not wear clothing of more than one material. (Lev.19:19). Got any clothes with wool and cotton? Or any two fabrics mixed together? Oh, no! Take them off and burn them! Quick!

    So all you Christians who think it’s a sin to be gay, I say this. Better read the Bible VERY closely, because the same section that bans gay male sex contains a thousand and one other claims. If you’re going to ignore the section of Leviticus that bans tattoos, pork, shellfish, round haircuts and the like, how can you possibly turn around and quote Leviticus 18:22 as irrefutable law?

  268. I come here because it is my right as an American citizen. I believe that my Bachelor’s Degree in Ministry disagrees with you about my knowledge of Jesus. Just because you disagree with me, doesn’t make me wrong. It just means that we have different beliefs, which is what this nation is all about.


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