This liberal church decided to continue brainwashing children after the community tried to stop it

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Liberal theology is running rampant in America.

They champion “progressive” political values more than Biblical ones.

And in one Texas town, this liberal church decided to continue brainwashing children after the community tried to stop it.

After receiving complaints from parents and community members, the Leander Library decided to cancel “Drag Queen Story Time.”

But according to KVUE ABC, the liberal Open Cathedral Church paid fees to rent a room from the library and will host the event in the rented space.

CBN News reports:

Open Cathedral Church is a progressive church that embraces LGBTQ ideology.

The event was originally canceled due to negative feedback within the community. The drag queen is expected read to the children about how wonderful it is to be different and special.

During past drag queen story hours at libraries, critics have expressed concerns for child safety and sexual predators coming in contact with the children.

In fact, at a recent ‘Drag Queen Story Hour’ in Houston, one of the drag queens was exposed as a convicted child sex offender.

As Culture Watch News has previously reported, the sex offender who read to children at the Houston Public Library had been convicted of sexually assaulting an 8-year-old boy.

In that instance, no one was fired, and the Houston Public Library continues to host “Drag Queen Storytime.”

Still, the radical transgender movement regularly schedules events like this to target young children.

Their goal is to brainwash the next generation into accepting transgenders as normal while confusing them about basic biological facts like there only being two genders.

But in this instance, the public embrace of the “Drag Queen Storytime” by a liberal church takes things to a new level.

Do you think a church should be paying for and celebrating “Drag Queen Storytime”?

Let us know your thoughts in the comments below.

68 COMMENTS

  1. More children are molested my Catholic clergy than all gays combined. If you aren’t going to support laws banning children under 18 from being allowed in churches then you have no place criticizing the LGBT community.

    • You’re either delusional, or just flat out lying. In 2015 alone, there were 683,000 children molested in the US. Homosexuals were responsible for just over 30% of those molestations, or about 230,000. From January of 1980 thru February of 2015 there were 4444 cases of molestations by Catholic priests. Let me break it down for you. That’s 230,000 children molested by gays in ONE year vs 4444 children molested by Catholic priests in THIRTY FIVE years. If you aren’t going to support laws banning gays from adopting or mentoring children under 18 then you have no place criticizing ANYONE!

      • I’m bettin your research is flawed… or full of BS…. most children are molested by heteros that are friends or family members…….do a little checking on your facts

        • Don’t give me the ‘straw man’ argument about not all sexual molesters of boys are homosexual, and that some otherwise heterosexuals molest boys.

          If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck …it’s a duck.

          — If it engages in sex with its own gender …It’s a homosexual.
          (By the way Leftists… There are ONLY TWO GENDERS!)

          Did you ever hear of Bisexuals?
          A bisexual is just a person who engages in sexual relations with both males and females.
          This still makes them homosexual.

    • There are no definitive proof to base your statements on. However there is documented criminal complaints about same sex couples molesting children, so called transgender using bathroom privileges to target children etc. Before you make a blanket statement you need to back it up with cold hard facts, which is what the LGBTQ community is afraid of, COLD HARD FACTS about their lifestyle choice etc.

    • And more children are molested by teachers than Catholic Priests. In addition, please realize that not all allegations are true – in all cases.

    • That is an insane way of supporting the evil things done to children Jason. And to think that what this church is doing is justifying this lifestyle with Gods approval. Really? I guess you are insane.

    • That is not a real church…It is SICK IDIOTS going to the library and trying to get minors to believe their BS. Ban them from ALL public Government buildings and do NOT allow them to interact with minors.

    • Jason: Uh, hate to tell you this but it was homosexual priests doing the sex stuff on preparing little boys for getting sex off of teenagers after the kids passed through puberty. Parents have a tendency to not watch boys as much as girls. Boston churches had an outside survey of the types of sexual activity existed when boys got to adult hood and decided to start suing for money. The survey showed 89% were homosexual priests, 5% priests left to marry women and the rest were priests having sex with 16-18 year old girls through the years in the diocese. Buffalo had the same problem with homosexual priests coming to light the last few years. A local TV show even had the preparing stuff and more on what the homosexual priests were practicing. Most of this stuff was in the 50s and 60s. When the homosexuals started to be kicked out of the church they headed for the Boys Scouts and an ATT CEO got on the Boys Scouts board and got them to let homosexuals in. Now the boys scouts are being told to bring condoms to their “gatherings”. Homosexuals go where the kids are, schools, churches, boys organizations, well you get the idea and my suspicions are you know it too. It is their mission statement on their website.

    • If the parents don’t like this, then just keep their kids out of that library during Drag Queen Story Hour. There’s nothing like withdrawing support — and money, and memberships — to change a policy.

    • Now, if that wasn’t the dumbest statement I have ever heard. Most of those priests perverts were preying on young boys, thus members of the LGBT community.

    • Very little if any of this child molestation ever hits the Main Stream Media, unless it is an “accusation” against a Catholic priest, that may have supposedly happened 20, 30, or 40 years ago!
      Doctors, Teachers, Coaches, Scout Leaders, and Protestant Preachers… just about anyone working with children are accused of committing Child Molestation all the time, but the MSM ignores it as ‘Just Local News’ but let a Catholic Priest be accused and it is National News!

      Please write down the following two numbers. Memorize them. Know what they refer to. The numbers are as follows:
      123,000
      422,000
      The first number, 123,000, is the total Enrollment of children in Catholic K-12 schools in the state of California.
      The second number, 422,000, is the number of children in the California Public Schools that have suffered sexual molestation by teachers and other school employees.
      In other words, the number of sexual abuse cases in the California public schools is 3.5 TIMES THE TOTAL ENROLLMENT of all the students in California’s Catholic schools.

    • Uh, Jason, the priest ARE homosexuals. Most of the boys that were molested by Catholic clergy were pubescent or post pubescent, making it not pedophilia but homosexual recruitment and likely statutory homosexual rape. In the 1960s h priesthood became a place for homosexuals to hide out, and there is now a deeply rooted cabal of homosexuals in the Catholic Hierarchy that protect each other.
      In the Catholic Church or outside, it is all the perversion of homosexuality. Homosexual practice is a perversion and a sin. Always has been, always will be. Kinsey was a homosexual and his studies were biased and designed to normalize the perversion. He is roasting in hell right now as I type this and will be for the rest of eternity.

      You are either a homosexual or a militant atheist (or both), or deeply deluded by the Gaystapo.

  2. Our nation has corporately become very sick, and it is getting worse as hard as it is to believe it could be worse. Pedophilia is next to become a protected class. I believe that will happen within 10 years unless we stand up and say No more. I don’t understand how a country that used to be a model of morality has abandoned its integrity.

  3. This is obscene! I would not allow my children to attend any such outlandish sexual (nor would I would I want children to be under the influence of these people.

    • question: who are the parishioners attending this “church “? And why would they attend this church knowing a convicted “drag queen” pedophile are in their children’s life ??????

      • First, these are faux churches. They call themselves churches but they are truly not. The people who are drawn to these type of liberal all accepting faux churches are usually those with some very anti-biblical habits which they do not want to give up and are thrilled they can play make believe Christianity in a make believe Church that will condone or at least allow their sin without any retribution. Jesus said he will separate the wheat from the tares and throw the tares into h#ll. These churches and their unsaved followers will be part of those tares. I don’t get joy in saying that. I just hope the truth will save at least one person. The road is narrow. Jesus said it was very narrow and very few will go down the narrow road to righteousness. The road to h#ll is broad. Jesus said many will go down that road. I’ve always thought, heaven will not be crowded. Heaven is for the the remnant that truly love God and are willing to follow him, His Son, and his word. Even with Israel, he saved a remnant.

  4. Jesus predicted these days. Even the church has become beguiled by the sinful world. They think they are being loving when in fact they are damning people to h#ll by letting them think their sinful lifestyles are okay. The term “liberal”. I remember when a boy or girl would get into a lot of trouble when they were in school, people would say, their parents are way too “liberal” with them in what they let them do. It is now getting very difficult to find a good solid bible preaching church that sticks to the word of God and does not succomb to the world’s wooing but sticks to the solid word of God. Yes Jesus loved everyone but he did not condone their sins. Narrow is the way to righteousness and broad is the way to damnation per Jesus. He said only a few would go down the narrow way and apparently that now even includes many churches who refuse to also go the narrow way. Liberal churches and their clergy will have a lot of souls to answer for on that last day.

    • Yes, in the last days peoples love will wax cold. Jesus addresses this in revelation when he speaks to the churches that have grown lukewarm. Since they are neither hot nor cold, God will spew them out. The Serpent Satan has done what God said he would by deceiving many with lies. These are the days when we must exercise our faith in God and stand firm as a Warrior wearing the full armor of God. As Christians we need to ask God to make us better at loving the sinners but not condoning the sin. If we accept sin as ok then how are we different than anyone else? How are we living out God’s Word and Truth? Jesus told us above all, they will know we are Christians by our love for one another. Father, please help us to be more courageous when living for You. We know that your Words are written to give us Knowledge, Hope, Guidance and Eternal Life. You gave us Morality and Rules to live by because You knew what was best. You created us and we were created for You. To live with you and fellowship with you and live in Love and Peace with You. Show us how to Love others and be like Jesus to the World we live in today! Give us Strength to be Truthful, Loving and Bold. May Your Kingdom Come! Amen

        • If the justice system would do their job we might not have as many problems; ANY assault/molestation should be dealt with HARSHLY, a slap on the wrist will not suffice.

          • Please tell that to the Catholic Church, and now even the Southern Baptist are involved in sex scandals. They have been sweeping it under the rug for years also!!

    • Amen, amen, amen!! If people would do the research in Revelations in history they would find that every nation that was founded on the word of God has fallen. Even Rome even Palestine and other nations. United States was founded by the word of God. But, it has walked away from the word. And by giving in to the devil’s ways. Is why this country is going to heck in a handbasket. Revelations is beginning. So get your house in order. Or, face God. Those who lead people the wrong way and call themselve ministers. Will be held accountable for the soul’s been let down the wrong path. And, those who give in to the devil also denies Jesus. And what did Jesus say? Those who deny me before man. I will deny him before the father. For those who give in to the sayings deny Jesus before man.

  5. It’s really simple, don’t send your kids to these programs and when the next library budget vote comes up, vote against it. Also, get with the library board and let them know that you don’t want these types of programs offered by or AT the library, that means, don’t offer the program space. The Open Cathedral Church sounds like a Universal Unitarian Church, which means they aren’t really Christian, they just believe that Jesus taught us that loving someone was accepting their destructive behavior as well as the person himself.

      • And while you are at it, do not attend that church. God gave us the ability to choose, so choose with your feet and leave. Then start campaigning against the library board who approved this abominable activity.

    • Not so simple as don’t send your kids – the LGBT community has been strong enough to REQUIRE many schools to conduct such programs in the name of teaching tolerance and educating children it is OK to experiment with their lifestyle – often without parents knowing about it.

  6. 1John1:18 Many false Christ’s shall arise in the later days leading many astray beware of them little children. They teach doctrines of devils and are antichrist liars deceivers using their position for selfish purposes. Beware of them little children 1John1:18

  7. Romans is the book which is the foundation of the New Testament Church. The very beginning of Romans clearly states that homosexuality and lesbianism is as result of “reprobate mind” (deranged mind) and not only those who practice such perversions but those who support them are worthy of death.

    God in Christ is the righteous judge and will judge those who ignore and blatantly violate His Word. Whether it is a political party, a person, or a so-called church.

  8. End of times is near fake churches and false prophets. The Bible is our manual and if a church teaches anything other than God’s words it’s actually not a church. I pray for these people they need all our prayers and for the kids I pray they have a strong Christian leader in their family or community

  9. First and formost we must understand that this is not a church. The true church is people not a building. People think of the church as a building. When we identify these people correctly we find they are an abominable people with a reprobate mind. God only has condemnation for these people. They will get their eternal reward in the lake of fire and what is more important, those that approve will join them for allowing and promoting this sick, disgusting practice from hell will join them for eternity. When they realize they sanctioned this perverted they will meet those of Sodom and Gomorrah at the great white throne judgment, Rev 20: 11-15. I know there are those will scream and try to silence the true Church that stands up to them, but the true Christians will stand up and proclaim the truth that sets man free and endure and inherit the promises of God.we as Christians are watchman on the wall warning man of the absolute wrong path that leads to hell and everlasting punishment. REPENT AND TURN TO OLD PATHWAY! EYE FROM THE WALL

  10. Wake up parents. You are doing harm to your children by allowing your children be exposed to this garbage. Would you let people dump garbage in your living room? Why let it be dumped into your child’s mind?

  11. Nancy Ruth and Rise are correct. Hit them at the ballot box and in the pocketbook. Make public throughout the city/state what’s going on and ask for support.

    I am sympathetic to all groups….but these groups have to act responsibily. Children are off limits and trying to indoctrinate children is unacceptable.

  12. If this church believes a registered sex offender should be allowed to have access to more potential victims, the church should be sued by the very first victims family. Strip them of all their financial resources. The victim will be sacrificed, the church will have no recourse, because they have been warned in advance. But I guess these progressives are all in, and care less about the victim than the criminal.

  13. What a sad nation we have become when the sick in mind are allowed to indoctrinate young children with their disgusting wayward way of life. They are totally wrong and parents should keep aa sharp eye on what their children are learning both in school and in other places that teach them anything. Do not assume your children are learning things the way that you did. Times have changed and not for the better. they are being indoctrinated with foreign cultures and told the US history is bad, that we were the aggressors not the defenders.Wake up AMERICA!

  14. “”Do you think a church should be paying for and celebrating “Drag Queen Storytime”?”

    Absolutely.
    As long as so-called “Evangelical Churches spew their hate and racism, this is a good counterbalance.

      • Drag queens are NOT mentally ill, they are just living out their real selves, no longer being afraid of being who they really are. They actually don’t dress as the photo shows, all the time. They save those costumes for special occasions. They often hold regular jobs and dress as regular people. So stop trying to create a problem where none exists. Children need to know that not everyone is alike and be able to accept others who are different from them.

  15. You reap what you sow, if you sow to the wind you will reap the whirlwind. The states have made it impossible to correct the bad behavior of children . No discipline shows not only a lake of love or concern for the well being of the child. Read the Bible and you will find if God himself does not discipline those that are followers of Christ he is showing that they are not part of his family. That discipline is to keep us on a path that leads us into eternal hope and faith in a Father who truly loves us and wants us to be with Him for eternity. A church which is truly the people in a group which may worship in a building , but they are the body of Christ . They are told to teach the truth , declare Christ as the only means of salvation to come out from the world to transform into Christ and not to be conformed to the world in which we live. We are to profess our salvation from the highest roof and declare God as our king and ruler. Christ will not come as a wimp , but as king of kings and Lord of Lords. If he is not lord of your life then he is not lord of you . He can not be your savior if you have not surrender to his ways. Christ says if you love me you will obey my commandments. You can not walk the middle of the road. You are like water that would cause one to vomit and He will spite you out of His mouth. A body of so called Christians will be in that category . They will say haven’t we done many miracles in your and Christ will respond to them depart from me I never knew you . They have never really accepted salvation and been obedient to his love and commandments. That is Christ’s warning and His words not our judgment. I think we need to look at Christ’s words when he speaks to those taken in sin. I do not condemn you , but my words shall condemn you . Every part of the Bible has some form of judgment against sinful actions. Therefore if the word of God will condemn us then we need to see the truth of the word of God and ask for Christ to dwell within us purifying our thoughts , our words, and our deeds. When we talk about children we need to see what Christ has to say about them . ” If you cause one of these little ones of mine to sin , it would be better for you if a millstone were placed around your neck and you be cast into the deepest sea. Our nation is at that point in its moral attitude.

  16. Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Genesis, chapter 19; Romans 1:18-32; 1 Timothy 1:8-11; and Jude, verse 7. These are the reasons this church is not of God. You can’t serve two masters (Matthew 6:24).

      • I’m talking town officials, (town concil, county officials, state officials. Most of the time town Concils don’t know their asses from a hole in the ground. If you can get the county involved you most likely can get the state’s attention. Don’t these people know anything. They must live in a back woods town.

  17. Whether in a church, library, or school, the LGBTQ movement, with its groundswell support from the cultural left in the media, Hollywood, and big business, believes it can impose its deviant and depraved lifestyle on the American people, most of who live according to the traditional standards and principles that have made this country great.

  18. A TRUE Evangelical Church does not spew hatred and racism. However, haterade is spewed by so many people now that is slops over to those who do not know Jesus. They merely repeat what they have heard and don’t question or research truth. And, truth is the new hate word, politically. What is wrong is right, what is up is now down, what is right is now left. We are dealing with the deceit of opposites.

  19. “Do you think a church should be paying for and celebrating ‘Drag Queen Storytime’” ?

    At a pro-life demonstration years ago, when Father Frank Pavone of Priests For Life asked Alveda King, the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King if the pro-life demonstrations were comparable to the civil rights movement, she replied, “Father, this IS the civil rights movement!”

    If protecting unborn children is a noble cause and calling, a just and religious cause, like the civil rights movement, why should conservative Christians have to resort to lies and deception?

    The Ten Commandments warn against bearing false witness.

    Jesus, in his Sermon on the Mount, said: “Let your word ‘yes’ be yes and your ‘no,’ no. Anything beyond this is from the evil one.”

    (Isn’t Satan known as a deceiver?)

    Even the apostle Paul, who taught a completely different theology than that of Jesus, condemned dishonesty (Colossians 3:13).

    Christians must not resort to intellectual and theological dishonesty!

    Some liberal Christians and some LGBT Christians say the commandments against homosexuality are in the Old Testament and that Christians aren’t under Mosaic Law, but under Jesus’ new covenant of love. The problem is, the new covenant as defined by Paul, condemns homosexuality alongside fornication:

    “And the men, instead of having normal sex relationships with women, burned with lust for each other, men doing shameful things with other men and, as a result, getting paid within their own souls with the penalty they so richly deserved.” (Romans 1:27)

    “I say this by way of concession, not as a regulation. I wish all men were as I [Paul] am [celibate]… but if they cannot restrain their passions, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to burn [with desire]…” (I Corinthians 7:6-9)

    “Make no mistake, no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers or drunkards or slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.” (I Corinthians 6:9-10 [NEB])

    “…let us put off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light. Let us behave ourselves decently as befits the daytime, not in carousing and drinking, not in immorality and debauchery, not in quarreling and jealousy. Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ; do not make provision for the flesh to gratify its cravings.” (Romans 13:12-14)

    “This is God’s will–your sanctification, that you keep yourselves from sexual immorality, that each of you learn how to take his own wife in purity and honor, not in lustful passion like the gentiles who have no knowledge of God.” (I Thessalonians 4:3-5)

    Paul told the gentiles to train themselves for godliness, to practice self-control and lead upright, godly lives (Galatians 5:23; I Timothy 4:7; II Timothy 1:7; Titus 2:11-12). He instructed them to ALWAYS pray constantly. (I Thessalonians 5:17)

    Christian women should cover their heads while worshiping, and long hair on males is dishonorable. (I Corinthians 11:5-14) Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (I Timothy 2:9)

    Jesus said, “Let he among you who is without sin cast the first stone. Only Christians abstaining from fornication on biblical grounds are in a position to condemn LGBT Christians on biblical grounds. Paul condemns fornication and homosexuality in the same verse (I Corinthians 6:9-10), and indicates in the following verse (I Corinthians 6:11) accepting Christ means giving up these things!

    Other Christians cite II Corinthians 12:8-9, where Paul claims the risen Jesus told him three times, “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” as a license to do as they please, conveniently ignoring the rest of the moral instructions Paul gives throughout his epistles alongside the saving grace of Jesus, presumably to remain in a state of grace after accepting Christ, being saved, etc.

    It is grace to stop sinning, not grace to remain in sin! Unless these Christians are prepared to say “…three times…” excuses homosexuality alongside fornication, these Christians are preaching a false gospel, as Paul condemns both in the same verse in his epistles, and indicates coming to Christ means giving up these things.

    The late Reverend Janet Regina Hyland (1933 – 2007), author of God’s Covenant with Animals (it’s available through People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, or PETA) says Christians citing “three times…” are quoting Paul out of context. Paul was very strict with himself:

    “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection; lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” (I Corinthians 9:27)

    Regina Hyland said this verse indicates it’s possible for one to lose one’s salvation (a serious point of contention among born agains!).

    Christians who focus only on II Corinthians 12:8-9 MUST be quoting Paul out of context, because otherwise it doesn’t make any sense: on the one hand, Paul is warning that drunkards, thieves, homosexuals, etc. will not receive the kingdom of God, and on the other hand he’s saying if you call on Jesus three times… you can do whatever you want?!

    Boy, not all Christians are pro-life! Couldn’t pro-choice Christians cite “three times…” to justify abortion?!

    If Ted Haggard were to try and rationalize his homosexual affairs with “three times…” would the Christians take it seriously?

    The traditional understanding of II Corinthians 12:8-9 is that Paul had a “thorn” in his side, and asked the risen Jesus about it. The response was simple: “my grace is sufficient for thee.” This was a response to a specific problem, not a license to do as one pleases, or why else would Paul himself have given so many other moral instructions throughout his epistles?

    Reverend Frank Hoffman, a retired pro-life vegan Methodist minister, and owner of the http://www.all-creatures.org Christian vegan website says he agrees with the traditional interpretation.

    Conservative Christians are wary of anyone preaching what they think is a “false gospel.” Otherwise, why aren’t they still following Jim and Tammy Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, etc.?

  20. Why in the heck are these people leaving their children in the hands of these sickos? These parents need to either remove their kids or be arrested for child endangerment. These leftists are really getting out of hand.

  21. This church is not under Biblical laws and anyone going here is not a true believer in the word of GOD. If this were happening at my church I would never enter its doors again. Their is many good churches that follow the Bible’s direction without adding their own narritive. These people are creating mind altering agendas on your children. Take care as evil is everywhere in this country.

  22. There is a strong argument that so called “trans-gender” begins in the womb. And like any birth defect it should be treated as a defect not a normal circumstance. David Goldman “Emotional Intelligence.”

    • Why not? Liberals and LGBT advocates are often asked what will they do when the gene causing sexual orientation is discovered and gay fetuses are aborted? Will they then oppose abortion? You should similarly ask Bible-believers citing Genesis 9:3: “I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?”

      Saying, “the Bible permits us to kill animals” isn’t convincing. The Bible permits killing the unborn, slavery and the subjugation of women, too.

      Genesis 38:24. Tamar’s pregnancy was discovered three months after conception. This was proof that she was sexually active. Because she was a widow, without a husband, she was assumed to be a prostitute. Her father-in-law, Judah, ordered that she be burned alive for her crime.

      If Tamar’s fetuses had any value whatsoever, her execution would have been delayed until after their birth.

      There was no condemnation on Judah for deciding to take this action.

      Exodus 21:22-24. If two men are fighting and one injures a pregnant woman and the fetus is killed, he shall repay her according to the degree of injury inflicted upon *her*, and not the fetus.

      Born-again author Brian McKinley comments:

      “Thus we can see that if the baby is lost, it does not require a death sentence-it is not considered murder. But if the woman is lost, it is considered murder and is punished by death.”

      This is grounded in Exodus 21:22. That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic Law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman’s miscarriage, which kills the fetus.

      If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman’s husband. If the woman is killed, the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person.

      Pro-life apologists say the fetus has *some* value, if not actual personhood, but… The New Testament is more permissive than the Old!

      Paul not only claims Mosaic Law has been abolished and refers to his previous adherence to the Law as “so much garbage”, but claims the risen Jesus said to him three times, “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” (II Corinthians 12:8-9).

      The gospels emphasize repentance and living in accordance with God’s commands and His commands are not very irksome, but some Christians misinterpret II Corinthians 12:8-9 as a verse meaning they’re free to do as they please, as a license to indulge — conveniently ignoring the rest of the moral instructions Paul gives throughout his epistles!

      The late Reverend Janet Regina Hyland (1933-2007), author of God’s Covenant with Animals, told me Christians who cite “three times…” are quoting Paul out of context.

      Paul, she observed, was very strict with himself:

      “But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection; lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway.” (I Corinthians 9:27)

      Regina Hyland said this verse indicates it’s possible for one to lose one’s salvation (a serious point of contention among born agains!). Paul not only gave moral instructions alongside the saving grace of Jesus, he practiced what he preached to others.

      These Christians MUST be quoting Paul out of context, because otherwise it doesn’t make any sense:

      On the one hand, Paul gives moral instructions throughout his epistles, often warning that those who fail to observe them will not receive the kingdom of God, and accepting Christ means giving these things up. (e.g., I Corinthians 6:9-11)

      On the other hand, “three times…’my grace is sufficient for thee’…” means you can do whatever you want?!

      (“Choice. Choice. Choice.”)

      Why then did Paul give the moral instructions alongside the saving grace of Jesus in the first place?!

      I’m surprised LGBTs aren’t citing “three times…” to justify same-sex relations!

      Can’t pro-choice Christians cite “three times” to justify their right to abortion, to say they don’t have to protect the unborn, and dismiss any meager concern given to the unborn in the Old Testament as unnecessary “work” or “so much garbage”?

      If this were three hundred years ago, couldn’t Christian slaveholders resist the abolition of slavery as unnecessary “work,” or “so much garbage,” or respond by citing “three times…”, etc.?

      No intelligent person is going to take the “three times…” argument seriously. On Facebook, when the heavenly and very pro-life Michelle Renee Bean posted a statement with a word or phrase appearing three times, I asked her:

      “Doesn’t ‘three times…’ justify ‘choice’ ?”

      “Absolutely,” responded Michelle.

      And she then proceeded to give a *secular* argument distinguishing sterilization from abortion.

      A *secular* argument! As Robert Ingersoll, the 19th century agnostic, noted, Americans have come to believe more in the Periodic Table of Elements than in anything in the Bible!

      Secular arguments are religion-neutral and thus applicable to *everyone*, including atheists and agnostics.

      The pro-life movement ALREADY HAS the support of organized religion.

      Instead of preaching to the choir, i.e., wasting time with religion, pro-lifers should focus on embryology and prenatal development, DNA, RNA, etc. to make their case to mainstream American secular society.

  23. I hate to break it to you, but many other churches have the exact same problems… but the MSM fails to report on it.
    Sorry… As much as the Leftists and the MSM love homosexualism, they hate the Catholic Church even more! Homosexuals have been running rampant in OTHER churches, schools, youth sports, the BSA, and other youth organizations. However, it is the Catholic Church that gets all the Bad Press from the Leftist MSM, while all the others are usually ignored.

    In the 1970s, the Catholic Church accepted the advice of many so-called “experts” in the mental-health industry, and concluded that pedophile priests could be successfully treated with private therapy. (Nowadays this therapy has been made illegal by those same Leftists!) The theory was not proven correct, and it helped protect many priests as they sexually abused thousands of boys.
    That was a disaster for many children and for the church, but it yielded a bonanza of lawsuits, media stories and therapy sessions for professional psychologists, lawyers, and reporters.

    Somewhat recently, we were told at Mass during a sermon, that during 1960’s and 70’s the Priestly Vocations were way down, so it was thought that it would be acceptable to allow men who were practicing homosexuals or with homosexual tendencies to become Priests because they would follow their vows and remain Celibate. We were then told that that “did not work out so well!”

    Those with the ‘tendencies’ chased the others with true vocations out of the Seminaries!
    Not well indeed!

    According to my studies:
    Because the Church followed the Leftist’s Mental Health Professionals advice…
    It is true, the Catholic Church does have a problem with homosexual and/or pedophile priests, and those that are doing it should be prosecuted, removed, and imprisoned!
    HOWEVER…
    1. There are organizations out there whose goal is to “Get Catholic Priests” for molesting children, whether they actually did it or not! No FACTS are needed or wanted. Just Persecution, Prosecution, and Removal, or Imprisonment. They are following Vladimir Ilyich Lenin’s advice on eliminating political opposition: “Vilify, vilify! Something will stick!” and utilizing his quotation: “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.”

    2. Many other organizations are having the very SAME problems as the Catholic Church, such as the BSA, Day-Care Centers, Schools, Youth Sport Teams, Olympics, and other Churches etc. However the MSM refuses to make those incidents into anything more than just LOCAL News and only reported and disseminated as such, it seldom becomes NATIONAL News.

    3. How does one successfully defend themselves against something that was “supposed” to have happened in secret and 10 or more years ago? For instance, Where specifically were YOU, exactly 6 months ago, who did you see, or not see, make an account for yourself for every minute, for just that 24 hour period? Now, PROVE IT! Would that be difficult for you, or IMPOSSIBLE? Yet priests who are accused of molesting children many years ago, and without a shred of evidence except the accusation! How is it possible to do defend oneself when you are being raked over the coals, for something you may or may not have done?

    4. Of course… no one would ever think of lying and “Jumping on the Band Wagon” of falsely accusing a Catholic Priest of molesting them 30 years ago, just for the Court to award them a Million Dollar Settlement?

    5. It seems that many times the Statutes of Limitations are not applied when someone is out to get a Catholic Priest.

    6. Leftists are now wanting to make Child Molestation or being a pedophile LEGAL, under “sexual orientation laws” for ‘minor-attracted persons’, however it is the same Leftism that is out to get ALL Catholic Priests.

    EXAMPLE: The homosexual-dominated non-denominational Metropolitan Community Church (MCC) is a lesson in sexual political reality. “Two sociologists who studied MCC in its formative years found magazines with ads for sex next to devotional literature. One congregation member referred to its youth ministry as — the ‘Chicken Coop’ because it attracted predatory older men, known as: ‘chicken hawks.’” Not one of the Leftists or the MSM criticizes a homosexual church for preying on adolescents.

    These horrific crimes have cost the thousands of victims more than we can imagine. But how much has this homosexual culture cost the Catholic Church? Obviously, its reputation has suffered greatly. But lay people who give their tithes and offerings must be appalled that, rather than feeding the hungry or providing other ministerial needs, the Church is attempting to compensate victims for the damage done by priests — to the tune of $3 billion.
    Finally, the words of the Apostle Paul are especially damning (Roman 2:24): “For, as it is written, ‘The name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.’”

    Funny thing…
    I believe that many people who are condemning the RCC, are fully supportive of all of the Leftists Pro-Homosexual Agenda, supporting transgenders, and now “Minor-Attracted Persons” and the rest of that unscientific and un-Biblical heresy!
    Many of these people have Openly Practicing Homosexual and Lesbian Ministers in their own churches! They are such hypocrites!
    Yet when the RCC is involved, it is somehow MORE Evil than what they fully support in their own church and political life?

    Have you heard about this below elsewhere?
    No!
    Of course, you did not!
    “A new investigative piece by the Houston Chronicle and San Antonio Express-News has revealed an alleged 20-year-long sex scandal within the leadership of several Southern Baptist churches. According to the investigation, about 380 leaders and volunteers within the church have been accused of sexual misconduct.”
    But of course you will NEVER hear this Block-Buster News from the Leftist-leaning MSM!
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/connorveenstra/2019/02/11/southern-baptist-sex-scandal-exposed-n2541175

  24. Any person taking children to the Open Cathedral Church should be indicted for child abuse. Parents attending this “church” are setting up their children for a very sick, maladjusted life.

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