The Satanic Temple just filed one lawsuit that is bad news for every Christian in America

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There is big money backing the anti-Christian movement in America.

These people are working every day to make sure America abandons its Christian roots.

And the Satanic Temple just filed one lawsuit that is bad news for every Christian in America.

While America has always been a Christian country, it has often not lived up to that.

This is especially true when it comes to the abortion industry, which kills hundreds of thousands of unborn boys and girls every year.

And despite the best efforts of many Christians to stop this barbaric practice, there are multi-billion dollar organizations fighting to protect it.

One of the lesser-known groups working to protect the killing of unborn babies is the Satanic Temple.

They just filed a lawsuit against the state of Missouri to try to overturn a requirement that women be given important information – like health risks and the humanity of the baby – before going through with an abortion.

Their lawsuit is based on the idea that abortion should be a simple process, and that notifying a woman about the reality of abortion is too cumbersome.

LifeSiteNews reports:

The left-wing secular advocacy group Satanic Temple filed a lawsuit against the state of Missouri in hopes of overturning its requirement that women be given critical information before going through with aborting their children.

Missouri law places a 72-hour waiting period on abortion and requires abortionists to provide women considering abortion with information about its medical risks and the humanity of the preborn child, including a definitive statement that “the life of each human being begins at conception. Abortion will terminate the life of a separate, unique, living human being.”

The Satanic Temple, which doesn’t believe the supernatural literally exists but embraces Satan’s name as a “symbol of the Eternal Rebel in opposition to arbitrary authority,” announced this week that it’s suing over the law on behalf of a member who was subjected to its provisions while seeking an abortion (the statement doesn’t mention whether she ultimately aborted her child).

These are the sort of people the Left are allying themselves with when it comes to fighting for abortion.

But it isn’t surprising they would be so militant in support of killing unborn baby boys and girls, considering they have no moral compass.

Do you think abortion should be illegal?

Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.

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  1. THERE IS NO PLACE FOR ABORTION AND IF YOU CLAIM TO BE A TRUE CHRISTIAN “FOLLOWER OF JESUS” THE CREATOR OF ALL LIFE< THEN THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT ABORTION IS NOT EVEN A THOUGHT IN ANY WAY

    • For that reason my beautiful bride for now well over a half-century have worked to build pro-life women’s clinics and support them. The legal list for qualified adoptive parents for American children is extremely long and the regulations so onerous that many are discouraged and go to Russia or Africa.

      The abortion industry lead by Planned Non-Parenthood is the most racist and bigoted industry in history with full intentions to carry out Margaret Sanger’s plans to exterminate all babies that did not look like her.

      • You & your bride are true Christians. I’ve always been against abortion & I also have disagreed with my Southern Baptist Church’s methods of fighting abortions that consisted of standing outside of known abortion clinics & calling the young pregnant women going into the clinics baby killers & other awful names.
        Most of these young girls are poor, scared, & doing the only thing that they think they can do.
        All of those “Christians” should be offering those girls options other than abortion instead of calling them baby killers. They should be offering them actual help with things such as prenatal care, expenses, adoption, help with raising their baby if they decide to keep the baby, etc. There’s so many options that Christians could help those scared, hopeless young women with if they would get together & fight abortion like you & your wife have been fighting it for all these years.
        Calling these girls baby killers is NOT the way to fight abortion.

    • What they should be fighting for is that the father and grandmothers of the baby will be informed.
      The grandmothers will have more experience in life and can handle the responsibility. Many end up adopting the child and caring for it.
      Also, the fathers should have that option, before an abortion.

    • Great Comment! The thing I can’t understand is why do they push for the baby to be destroyed? Why not push adoption as an alternative? There are many families wanting to adopt an unwanted baby but Planned Parenthood wants the money from providing the abortion and maybe funds from selling body parts?

      • We must remember, this is not a battle between men but between Satan and God. Each of us stand for one side or the other based on the choices we make. Satan choose to rebel against God in the pre-existance where he and his followers wrte cast out of Gods presence to Earth, never to receive a physical body. Does this tick him off? You bet! He is very jealous and envious of us having a body that he and his minions will tempt us in many ways to destroy our bodies. All of our temptations come through our physical bodies that assualt our spirit. Drugs, alcohol, appetites, tattoos, piercings, adultry, etc. Satan wants us to abuse our body’s. Why? Because our bodies are “the temple of God”. We cannot have the spirit of God dwell with us we are defiling that or any temple be it of flesh or mortar. This is fact. He and his minions want to know so badly what it is like to experience a physical body that they are willing to inhabit the bodies of swine. God will bless this continent (the promised land” and our people if we do not turn away from worshiping Him. Read “The American Covenant”

    • For all the abortion advocates, your karma will come and when you die, you will feel the pain the fetuses felt when you murdered them.

      • DON’T NEED A ABORTION THEY CAN TAKE THE MORNING AFTER PILL EVEN THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN RAPED THEY GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND THE DRS LOOK AT THEM FACE TO FACE EYE TO EYE & TELL THEM IF YOU DON’T TAKE IT THEN THEY ARE PLANNING TO BE A PARENT THAT’S WHERE PLAN PARENTHOOD WOULD COME IN PLANNING TO BE A PARENT

        • With birth control available I have never understood the need for abortion I had a friend who had 5 abortions because she couldn’t use any birth control as it didn’t agree with her She used abortion as her birth control method and saw no reason why not

  2. Abortion is murder in its highest form. A real person that has no defense other than that women that has no MOTHER qualities. Evan the animal kingdom and the birds of the air know and will protect there own.God help us as Americans to get rid of this abomination of abortion.

  3. This is satan trying to cloud the minds of pregnant women with lies. He’s loosing the battle ,because truth will always win out, and he hates the truth.His agenda is always evil and darkness is his reign.

  4. The Bible permits abortion. Pro-lifers must become secular.

    Genesis 38:24. Tamar’s pregnancy was proof that she was sexually active. Because she was a widow, without a husband, she was assumed to be a prostitute. Her father-in-law, Judah, ordered that she be burned alive for her crime.

    If Tamar’s fetuses had any value whatsoever, her execution would have been delayed until after their birth. There was no condemnation on Judah for deciding to take this action.

    Exodus 21:22-24. If two men are fighting and one injures a pregnant woman and the fetus is killed, he shall repay her according to the degree of injury inflicted upon *her*,and not the fetus.

    Author Brian McKinley, a born-again Christian, comments:

    “Thus we can see that if the baby is lost, it does not require a death sentence-it is not considered murder. But if the woman is lost, it is considered murder and is punished by death.”

    Halacha (Jewish Law) does define when a fetus becomes a nephesh (person), a full-fledged human being, when the head emerges from the womb. Before then, the fetus is considered a “partial-life”; it gains full human status after birth only.

    The Babylonian Talmud (Yevamot 69b) states that: “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day.” Afterward, it is considered subhuman until it is born.

    Rashi, the great 12th century commentator on the Hebrew Bible and the Talmud, states clearly of the fetus ‘lav nephesh hu — it is not a person.’

    The Talmud contains the expression, “the thigh of its mother,” i.e., the fetus is deemed to be part and parcel of the pregnant woman’s body.

    This is grounded in Exodus 21:22. That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic Law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman’s miscarriage, which kills the fetus.

    If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman’s husband. If the woman is killed, the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person.

    There are two additional passages in the Talmud which shed some light on abortion. They imply that the fetus is considered part of its mother:

    One section states that if a man purchases a cow that is found to be pregnant, then he is owner of both the cow and the fetus.

    Another section states that if a pregnant woman converts to Judaism, that her conversion also applies to her fetus.

    Some Jewish authorities have ruled in specific cases. one case involved a woman who becomes pregnant while nursing a child. Her milk supply would dry up. If the child is allergic to all other forms of nutrition except mother’s milk, then it would starve.

    An abortion would be permitted in this case, a potential person, would be justified to save the life of the child, an actual person.

    Judaism supports abortion access for women. Polls show 90 percent of American Jews supporting abortion rights.

    Pro-life apologists say at least the unborn has *some* value in the Old Testament, if not actual or real personhood. But the New Testament is more permissive than the Old Testament!

    In Christianity, Paul’s gospel displaces Jesus’ gospel. Jesus, a rabbi, repeatedly upheld Mosaic Law (Matthew 5:17-19; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 16:17) as did his apostles (see chapters 10, 15, and 21 of Acts). Paul, however, claims Mosaic Law has been abolished, referring to his previous adherence to the Law as “so much garbage…”

    So even if you could find a verse in the Old Testament indicating concern for the unborn, Paul, and not Jesus, says it’s “garbage.”

    Like animals in contemporary American society, the Bible accords the unborn marginal concern which is often inconsistent at best.

    Paul doesn’t say anything about abortion in any of his epistles. Paul repeatedly attacked sexual immorality.

    “This is God’s will—your sanctification, that you keep yourselves from sexual immorality, that each of you learn how to take his own wife in purity and honor, not in lustful passion like the gentiles who have no knowledge of God.” (I Thessalonians 4:3-5)

    “Make no mistake,” warned Paul, “no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers or drunkards or slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.” (I Corinthians 6:9-10 [NEB])

    Paul told the gentiles to train themselves for godliness, to practice self-control and lead upright, godly lives (Galatians 5:23; I Timothy 4:7; II Timothy 1:7; Titus 2:11-12).

    He instructed them to *always* pray constantly. (I Thessalonians 5:17)

    Paul wrote further that women should cover their heads while worshiping, and that long hair on males is dishonorable. (I Corinthians 11:5-14)

    According to Paul, Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (I Timothy 2:9)

    Paul doesn’t say anything about abortion in any of his epistles, but would it matter if he had?

    Conservative Christians are quick to condemn anyone preaching a false gospel, but some conservative Christians argue not only that they’re not under Mosaic Law, but that they don’t have to follow Paul, either, because Paul claims the risen Jesus said to him three times “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” and they take this biblical verse as a license to do as they please.

    If their view prevails, then:

    What basis do pro-life Christians have for prohibiting abortion?

    Doesn’t “three times…” justify choice?

    Secular pro-life arguments are religion-neutral and thus applicable to everyone, including atheists and agnostics.

    The pro-life movement ALREADY HAS the support of organized religion.

    Instead of preaching to the choir, i.e., wasting time with religion, pro-lifers should focus on embryology and prenatal development, DNA, RNA, etc. to make their case to our mainstream secular society.

    God cares for unborn children as He cares for animals. The case against abortion is largely extra-canonical, not Scriptural, e.g., the writings of the early church fathers. The earliest Christians were vegetarians as well as pacifists. Clemens Prudentius, the first Christian hymn writer, in one of his hymns exhorted his fellow Christians not to pollute their hands and hearts by the slaughter of innocent cows and sheep, and pointed to the variety of nourishing and pleasant foods obtainable without blood-shedding. Secular scholar Keith Akers concludes: “But many others, both orthodox and heterodox, testified to the vegetarian origins of Christianity. Both Athanasius and his opponent Arius were strict vegetarians. Many early church fathers were vegetarian, including Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, Heironymus, Boniface, and John Chrysostom… Vegetarianism is at the heart of Christianity.”

    St. Richard of Wyche, a vegetarian, was moved by the sight of animals taken to slaughter: “Poor innocent little creatures. If you were reasoning beings and could speak, you would curse us. For we are the cause of your death, and what have you done to deserve it?” St. Francis of Assisi taught: “If you have men who will exclude any of God’s creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow men.” St. Filippo Neri spent his life protecting and rescuing living creatures. A vegetarian, he could not bear to pass a butcher’s shop. “Ah,” he exclaimed, “if everyone were like me, no one would kill animals!”

    “Thanks be to God!” wrote John Wesley, founder of Methodism, to the Bishop of London in 1747. “Since the time I gave up the use of flesh-meats and wine, I have been delivered from all physical ills.” Wesley was a vegetarian for spiritual reasons as well. Wesley based his vegetarianism on the biblical prophecies concerning the Kingdom of Peace, where “on the new earth, no creature will kill, or hurt, or give pain to any other.” Wesley taught that animals “shall receive an ample amends for all their present sufferings.” Wesley further taught that animals will attain heaven: in the “general deliverance” from the evils of this world, animals would be given “vigor, strength and swiftness… to a far higher degree than they ever enjoyed.” Wesley urged parents to educate their children about compassion towards animals: “I am persuaded you are not insensible of the pain given to every Christian, every humane heart, by those savage diversions, bull-baiting, cock-fighting, horse-racing, and hunting.”

    The Quakers have a long history of advocating kindness towards animals. In 1795, the Society of Friends (Quakers) in London passed a resolution condemning sport hunting: “…let our leisure be employed in serving our neighbor, and not in distressing, for our amusement, the creatures of God.” John Woolman (1720-1772) was a Quaker preacher and abolitionist who traveled throughout the American colonies attacking slavery and cruelty to animals. Woolman wrote that he was “early convinced in my mind that true religion consisted in an inward life, wherein the heart doth love and reverence God the Creator and learn to exercise true justice and goodness, not only toward all men, but also toward the brute creatures… Where the love of God is verily perfected… a tenderness toward all creatures made subject to us will be experienced, and a care felt in us that we do not lessen that sweetness of life in the animal creation which the great Creator intends for them.”

    Joshua Evans (1731-1798), a Quaker, said reverence for life was the moral basis of his vegetarianism: “I considered that life was sweet in all living creatures, and taking it away became a very tender point with me… I believe my dear Master has been pleased to try my faith and obedience by teaching me that I ought no longer to partake of anything that had life.” The “Quaker poet” and abolitionist John Greenleaf Whittier (1807-1892), wrote: “The sooner we recognize the fact that the mercy of the Almighty extends to every creature endowed with life, the better it will be for us as men and Christians.”

    The founder and first secretary of the Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (RSPCA), the Reverend Arthur Broome, an Anglican priest, endured poverty and jail for the cause of animals. The RSPCA was originally founded as a Christian Society “entirely based on the Christian Faith, and on Christian Principles,” sponsoring sermons on humane education in churches in London. Its first Prospectus spoke of the need to extend Christian charity and benevolence to the animals, and was signed by many leading 19th century Christians including William Wilberforce, Richard Martin, G.A. Hatch, J. Bonner, and Dr. Heslop.

    General William Booth (1829-1912), founder of the Salvation Army, practiced and advocated vegetarianism. Booth never officially condemned flesh eating as cruelty to animals nor as gluttony, but taught that abstinence from luxury is helpful to the cause of Christian charity. “It is a great delusion to suppose that flesh of any kind is essential to health,” he insisted.

    Although Seventh Day Adventists are known to promote vegetarianism, nonsmoking, and nondrinking for health and nutrition, church founder Ellen White taught kindness to animals is a Christian duty. She urged the faithful to: “Think of the cruelty that meat eating involves, and its effect on those who inflict and those who behold it. How it destroys the tenderness with which we should regard these creatures of God!”

    “To stand for Christ is to stand against the evil of cruelty inflicted on those who are weak, vulnerable, unprotected, undefended, morally innocent, and in that class we must unambiguously include animals. There is something profoundly Christ-like about the innocent suffering of animals. Look around you and see the faces of Christ in the billions of innocent animals suffering in factory farms, in laboratories, in abattoirs, in circuses and in animals hunted for sport.”

    —Reverend Andrew Linzey, contemporary Anglican priest, and author of several books on animal rights and Christianity

      • Brian McKinley: From your post I really have to question your salvation but that will be between you and God as I have no right to judge. This is simply meant as a recommendation. We will be known by our fruit.

      • Tamar tricked her father in law into sleeping with her(because he didn’t give her to marriage to his other son). When he found her with child he decreed her to be burned. When she presented him with his signet and bracelets, given as a pledge for services rendered, he realized what she had done and she left his lands and GAVE BIRTH to twins. When you finish the story it blows your argument out of the water.

    • Animals have no rights Read Genesis… Man shall have dominion over them. You are off your rocker about abortion and the Bible. For MAN was Created in the image of GOD. You not any one else has the right to kill a baby. The blood of EACH ABORTED child is on your head. You are NOT a man of GOD. You are a sin of Satan. May The LORD JESUS CHRIST have mercy on your soul IF you repent and turn from your evil ways..
      Pastor John E. Adams
      P.S. We will pray for you and your repentance happening soon. Also stop taking and twisting scripture.

      • John, Yes God gave us dominion over the animals. But He did give us the RESPONSIBLITY to take care of what He created. Animals do not have rights, but humans have responsibility to take care of them.
        P.S. – He/she, whoever ALWAYS twists scripture. Vasu has no clue about who God is or what the Bible teaches.

        • bj; So true! Thank you. Animals are one of GOD’s gifts to us. I don’t know what I would do if I didn’t have them in my life….

          • Good morning bj
            Sorry to butt in, but I just had to add my 2 &1/2cents????
            I also have had animals all my life, I have 2 cats now that are my constant & only companions. I love them to death!!

    • Grandmothers should be informed about the baby. I’ve known many grandparents who take care of their grandchildren – some even have adopted them and ADORE those children.
      Also, the FATHERS should have the option and their parents should also have the possibility of adopting the child.

    • Vasu murti, go away, no one wants to hear your long winded b.s. If you have to go on and on with your b.s., write a book(that nobody will buy), and quit writing your b.s. on these issues. We Do Not care about you or what you think! Be gone troll!

    • Vast Murti : The Bible DOES NOT allow murder, including abortion !!! From the first born boy (Cain) who murdered his younger brother (Abel) onward, murder is condemned by The Bible. Any high number of people who violate that basic law of God can NEVER make murder justified. Popularity has never proved rightfulness in God’s Word, The Bible. In Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus (God The Son / The Son Of God) told that the way that is broad and wide (you can say popular) leads to destruction (death and Hell), and MANY go/enter there. But the “gate is strait and the way is narrow that leads to life, and FEW there be who find it.” Your popularity in this is quite simply “a red flag” against it !!!!!

    • Vasu Murti >> Your long winded essays fail to address that the Hebrew Bible, which believers now call the Old Testament, and the New Testament, are to be interpreted by the Holy Spirit.

      Luke, inspired by the Holy Spirit, wrote the book of Acts the history of the early church. In the book of Acts chapter 10 God showed Peter through a vision that the Dietary Laws given to Moses were no longer in effect.
      10:11 He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. 12 It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. 13 Then a voice told him, “Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.”
      14 “Surely not, Lord!” Peter replied. “I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.”
      15 The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.”
      16 This happened three times, and immediately the sheet was taken back to heaven. Peter

      The voice heard was clearly the Holy Spirit who interpreted the vision that God gave peter three times.

      All the vegetarians you noted could have eaten Pork, Beef, Goat, Puppies, Cats, horses, alligators, in, monkeys, insects, snakes etc. They didn’t and that was their choice,, but they missed some great meals and treats. Your essays deal with history which is tainted by men’s thoughts. The Bible, believers feel, is His Story and it is the manufacturer’s manual given to His disciples. There is much to learn from history, but all the answers on how people should walk and talk are in the Lamb’s Book of Life. Adam and Eve were disobedient and touched the seedless fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil and their spirit died so they were no longer in the image of God. They each were a body with a soul, but were dead spiritually, no longer in the image of God.

      Jesus gave his life’s blood and died on a cross so every human has the opportunity to repent of their sin, accept Jesus as Saviour, and be born again. Born again means that a person is filled with the Holy Spirit and recovers what was lost by Adam and Eve who were in the image of God until they failed to heed God’s warning about the fruit.

      Having the Holy Spirit means the believer has the spiritual ability to interpret the Scriptures. Believers still can miss the proper interpretation of Scripture since no one is infallible although some claim infallibility. There is a battle that is an ongoing battle between a believer’s flesh and the believer’s spirit that causes many problems that result in error as shown in many of your examples.

      Also Satan knows the Scriptures and tries to mislead the saved and unsaved. He wants to mislead humans so they do not accept the gift of redemption available through the Blood of the Lamb of God and will end up with him, Satan, and his fallen angels in the Lake of Fire.

      • Harvey…So you think that eating dogs, cats, horses, etc. are a treat?? You are sick. I certainly would not let you around my pets. And wasn’t it Luke AND Paul who wrote Acts? And Eve (and then Adam) ATE the fruit of the tree. They did not just touch it

    • Vasu…I am totally against animal cruelty and believe that we have the responsibility to take care of the animals God gave us. But faces of Christ???? You are deranged.

    • I was incredibly moved and impressed by your post. It shines even brighter in the company of the other posts in this mostly mindless echo chamber. Thank you. I wish we lived in the same place. If we did, I would try to convince you we should be friends. I’d really enjoy listening to more of what you have to say.

      • Lisa Coston; Oh Nancy do really think you are fooling anyone? Well, at least you picked the PERFECT story for you to praise Vasu( and yourself).Since neither one of you are Christians……

    • So god doesn’t want us to make the same mistakes that occurred 3 thousand years ago, right?
      Also he did give us a brain to think with, and to make decisions based on
      past biblical teaching.
      You have to read the whole thing, and let it soak in. It’s not uncommon for people to get the meaning wrong.

  5. Such folly. The Lord is in derision at these godless attempts. I hate abortion…detest the murder of innocent children. Yet the son of perdition in all of his follies…he plays a role in filling the heavens with these little angels. Not one will be lost. Not one.

  6. A Roman Catholic priest, Reverend David K. O’Rourke, said, “Every religious group in the United States is a minority group. Some may be unhappy with this status and wish they had official standing. I am not unhappy with it. The Catholic Church, the largest of these minorities, has prospered greatly in this country where we separate church and state.”

    According to journalist Rob Boston of Americans United for Separation of Church and State: “We have a vibrant, multifaith religious society that, with the exception of a few fundamentalist Muslim states, is admired all over the globe. We have a degree of interfaith harmony unmatched in the world. Our government is legally secular, but our culture accommodates and welcomes a variety of religious voices. New faiths take root here without fear…

    “Americans remain greatly interested in religion and things spiritual—unlike their counterparts in Western Europe, where religion is often state subsidized but of little interest to most people… Children are no longer forced to pray in school or read from religious texts against their will, yet they are free to engage in truly voluntary religious worship whenever they feel the need. The important task of imparting religious and philosophical training to youngsters is left where it always belonged—with each child’s parents or guardians…

    “Some European nations have passed so-called anticult laws aimed at curbing the rights of unpopular new religions. Such laws would not be acceptable in the United States or permitted under the First Amendment.

    “In a multifaith society such as the United States,” observes Boston, “a type of religious marketplace does exist. Religious groups that aggressively seek converts, such as the Mormons and the Jehovah’s Witnesses, are well aware that people in the United States are able and even willing to change their religious beliefs. To these groups, it’s well worth it to enter the marketplace and advertise their goods. Lots of people might buy them…

    “Because the U.S. government is secular, religious groups are left to contend for members based solely on their own initiative. They create a free marketplace of religion that spurs competition and a vigorous religious life. This explains why the United States, which maintains church-state separation, retains a high degree of religiosity among its people.

    “The more sophisticated and perceptive believers realize that the separation principle is a boon to their faith,” notes Boston. “They see danger in any attempt by government to decide which religion is true and which is false. They know that a faith that is in favor with the government today can be out of favor tomorrow. These believers are thankful for the free marketplace of religion and the secular state that makes it possible. They understand that the way to get new members is through persuasion, not government aid.”

    Some of the religious leaders of the colonial period, such as Roger Williams, favored religious freedom.

    “Williams was an unusual character for his times,” writes Boston. “A devout Christian, he was absolutely convinced that his views on religion were correct and that any rational being would in time come around and agree with him once the facts were laid bare. But Williams insisted with equal force that the state should have no business in enforcing orthodoxy. A person’s understanding of religion and truth, Williams insisted, must come from within. He argued for complete freedom of conscience, a concept he called ‘soul liberty.’”

    In 1635, Williams and his followers were expelled from Massachusetts. They fled south to what is today Rhode Island, where he founded the city of Providence. According to Boston, Williams, “announced that all who chose to live there would enjoy full religious and political freedom. Williams’ proclamation proved the sincerity of his beliefs, as he soon had to suffer many religious views he personally found distasteful. For example, Williams detested Quakers and often blasted them in his writings. Yet in Rhode Island, Quakers worshipped unmolested, at least during the years of Williams’ oversight.

    “It was Williams who coined the phrase that may have been the grandfather to Thomas Jefferson’s famous ‘wall of separation’ between church and state metaphor. In his 1644 treatise, ‘The Bloody Tenet of Persecution, for cause of Conscience,’ Williams warned against opening ‘a gap in the hedge, or wall of separation, between the garden of the church and the wilderness of the world.’ A decent distance between church and state, he maintained, would keep the purity of the church intact and safe from the corrupting influence of government.”

    Similarly, Pastor John Leland “was dismayed to see dissenting preachers in jail for their religious views. Leland’s writings echo some of the comments made by Jefferson. Leland, defending freedom of conscience, wrote, ‘Government should protect every man in thinking, and speaking freely, and that one does not abuse another…all should be equally free, Jews, Turks, pagans and Christians.’

    “On another occasion, Leland wrote in opposition to the idea that holders of public office should have to believe certain things about religion before they could even run. Such ‘religious tests’ were common in many colonies. Wrote Leland, ‘If a man merits the confidence of his neighbors…let him worship one God, twenty gods, or no god—be he Jew, Turk, Pagan, or Infidel, he is eligible to any office in the state.

    “Unlike Jefferson, who was a rationalist and something of a religious skeptic,” continues Boston, “Leland’s support for church-state separation was anchored in his theological views. In 1790 he wrote, ‘The notion of a Christian commonwealth should be exploded forever…If all the souls in a government were saints of God, should they be formed into a society by law, that society could not be a Gospel Church, but a creature of the state.’

    “Clergy in other states also played a pivotal role in the struggle to establish the separation of church and state in America. In Massachusetts, Pastor Isaac Backus, a Baptist minister, went so far as to refuse to pay a church tax and was arrested. In 1774 he wrote a document blasting the tax, which asserted in part, ‘Religion is a concern between God and the soul with which no human authority can intermeddle.’”

    In 1787 when the framers excluded all mention of God from the Constitution, they were widely denounced as immoral and the document was denounced as godless, which is precisely what it is. Opponents of the Constitution challenged ratifying conventions in nearly every state, calling attention to Article VI, Section 3:

    “No religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    An anti-federalist in North Carolina wrote: “The exclusion of religious tests is by many thought dangerous and impolitic. Pagans, Deists and Mohammedans might obtain office among us.”

    Amos Singletary of Massachussetts, one of the most outspoken critics of the Constitution, said that he “hoped to see Christians (in power), yet by the Constitution, a papist or an infidel was as eligible as they.”

    Luther Martin, a Maryland delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 wrote that “there were some members so unfashionable as to think that a belief in the existence of a Deity, and of a state of future rewards and punishments would be some security for the good conduct of our rulers, and that in a Christian country, it would be at least decent to hold out some distinction between the professors of Christianity and downright infidelity or paganism.”

    Martin’s report shows that a “Christian nation” faction had its say during the convention, and that its views were consciously rejected.

    The United States Constitution is a completely secular political document. It begins “We the people,” and contains no mention of “God,” “Jesus,” or “Christianity.” Its only references to religion are exclusionary, such as the “no religious test” clause (Article VI), and “Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” (First Amendment)

    The presidential oath of office, the only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase “so help me God” or any requirement to swear on a Bible (Article II, Section 1).

    The words “under God” did not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, when Congress, under McCarthyism, inserted them.

    Similarly, “In God we Trust” was absent from paper currency before 1956, though it did appear on some coins beginning in 1864.

    The original U.S. motto, written by John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson, is “E Pluribus Unum” (“Of Many, One”) celebrating plurality and diversity.

    In 1797, America made a treaty with Tripoli, declaring that “the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” This reassurance to Islam was written under Washington’s presidency and approved by the Senate under John Adams.

    We are not governed by the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose was to “dissolve the political bonds,” not to set up a religious nation. Its authority was based upon the idea that “governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” which is contrary to the biblical concept of rule by divine authority.

    The Declaration deals with laws, taxation, representation, war, immigration, etc., and doesn’t discuss religion at all. The references to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence” in the Declaration do not endorse Christianity. Its author, Thomas Jefferson, was a Deist, opposed to Christianity and the supernatural.

    “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to me so pure as that of Jesus,” wrote Thomas Jefferson. However, Jefferson admitted, “In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man and that other parts are the fabric of very inferior minds…”

    It was Thomas Jefferson who established the separation of church and state. Jefferson was deeply suspicious of religion and of clergy wielding political power.

    Jefferson helped create the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786, incurring the wrath of Christians by his fervent defense of toleration of atheists:

    “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others. But it does no injury for my neighbor to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

    Jefferson advocated a “wall of separation” between church and state not to protect the church from government intrusion, but to preserve the freedom of the people:

    “I consider the doctrines of Jesus as delivered by himself to contain the outlines of the sublimest morality that has ever been taught;” he observed, “but I hold in the most profound detestation and execration the corruptions of it which have been invested by priestcraft and established by kingcraft, constituting a conspiracy of church and state against the civil and religious liberties of mankind.”

    Jefferson and the founding fathers were products of the Age of Enlightenment. Their world view was based upon Deism, secularism, and rationalism.

    “The priests of the different religious sects dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight,” wrote Jefferson. “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter… we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away all this…”

    As late as 1820, Jefferson was convinced everyone in the United States would die a Unitarian. Jefferson, Madison and Paine’s writings indicate that America was never intended to be a Christian theocracy. “I have sworn upon the altar of God,” wrote Jefferson, “eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

    In his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists, Jefferson wrote:

    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    Similarly, in an 1824 letter to John Cartwright, Jefferson expressed anger at judges who had based rulings on their belief that Christianity is part of the common law. Cartwright had written a book critical of these judges, and Jefferson was glad to see it. Observed Jefferson:

    “The proof of the contrary, which you have produced, is controvertible; to wit, that the common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced, or knew that such a character had ever existed.”

    Jefferson challenged “the best-read lawyer to produce another script of authority for this judicial forgery” and concluded, “What a conspiracy this, between Church and State!”

    As president, Jefferson put his “wall of separation” theory into practice. He refused to issue proclamations calling for days of prayer and fasting, insisting that they violate the First Amendment. As early as 1779, Jefferson proposed a bill before the Virginia legislature that would have established a series of elementary schools to teach the basics—reading, writing, and arithmetic.

    Jefferson even suggested that “no religious reading, instruction, or exercise shall be prescribed or practiced, inconsistent with the tenets of any religious sect or denomination.” Jefferson did not regard public schools as the proper agent to form children’s religious views.

    As president, James Madison also put his separationist philosophy into action. He vetoed two bills he believed would violate church-state separation. The first was an act incorporating the Episcopal Church in the District of Columbia that gave the church the authority to care for the poor. The second was a proposed land grant to a Baptist church in Mississippi.

    Had Madison, the father of the Constitution, believed that all the First Amendment was intended to do was bar setting up a state church, he would have approved these bills. Instead, he vetoed both, and in his veto messages to Congress explicitly stated that he was rejecting the bills because they violated the First Amendment.

    Later in his life, James Madison came out against state-paid chaplains, writing, “The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles.” He also concluded that his calling for days of prayer and fasting during his presidency had been unconstitutional.

    In an 1819 letter to Robert Walsh, Madison wrote, “the number, the industry and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the state.” In an undated essay called the “Detached Memoranda,” written in the early 1800s, Madison wrote, “Strongly guarded…is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States.”

    In 1833 Madison responded to a letter sent to him by Jasper Adams. Adams had written a pamphlet titled “The Relations of Christianity to Civil Government in the United States,” which tried to prove that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. Madison wrote back: “In the papal system, government and religion are in a manner consolidated, and that is found to be the worst of government.”

    Madison, like Jefferson, was confident that separation of church and state would protect both the institutions of government and religion. Late in his life, Madison wrote to a Lutheran minister about this, declaring, “A due distinction… between what is due to Caesar and what is due to God, best promotes the discharge of both obligations… A mutual independence is found most friendly to practical religion, to social harmony, and to political prosperity.”

    In the early part of the 19th century, a general understanding existed that the government should not promote religion, or favor one religion over another. In 1829, Senator Richard Johnson of Kentucky wrote:

    “It is not the legitimate province of the Legislature to determine what religion is true, or what is false. Our Government is a civil and not a religious institution. Our Constitution recognizes in every person the right to choose his own religion, and to enjoy it freely, without molestation. Whatever may be the religious sentiments of citizens, and however variant, they are alike entitled to protection from the Government, so long as they do not invade the rights of others…

    “Among all the religious persecutions with which almost every page of modern history is stained, no victim ever suffered but for violation of what Government denominated the law of God. To prevent a similar train of evils in this country, the Constitution has wisely withheld from our Government the power of defining the divine law.”

    • Vasu: And here comes Satan’s little helper Vasu! Always quoting this one and that one without having an original thought of his own! Oh and I love him being a Hindu, he is an expert on the bible and Christ too!! What a well rounded moron you are!!!

      • Vasu… NO ONE here cares what you have to say. You know NOTHING at all about who God is or what His word teaches. The Bible is just a bunch of words to you. You have not applied what you read. When are YOU going to come to Jesus and repent and accept Him as the Lord of your life???? Until you do, you have no concept of what Christianity is. EVERY Christian has accepted Jesus and is saved. You have rejected Jesus and the truth. GO AWAY!!!!!!!! You are a FOOL!!!!!

        • BJ & Linda
          I posted a “PSA” in the other room, this vasu, redman, betty, Alaska woman, & all these other AKA’s are just liberal plants whose objective in these rooms is to distract us from the real issues, the more they get us to give them attention, the less attention we give to eachother & the articles in these blogs. If we ignore them, then they fail at their agenda & eventually they will go away.
          Anyways, that’s what I think.

          • Colleen; Yes you are correct. BUT, when you have someone like redman calling you vile names such as whore, it is very hard to ignore these obscene comments. And even when reported, R.R. did not block him. These sites are SUPPOSED to be for people to share their thoughts and ideas. Not for disturbed, hostile posters,to keep crossing the line.. I am fully aware that Vasu is paid by the Democrats to come here and annoy us, with his propaganda. But that’s all he is; annoyance .And perhaps I am crossing the line for specking for BJ. But she is a good Christian woman that is very frustrated by Vasu not knowing what the Bible REALLY says and she truly wants him to be saved.
            You will not see me post on R.R. any longer. And if those other pests keep centering us out, I will stop posting there as well. I am too ill to keep battling with these fools…. Unjustly….

          • OMG, Linda
            I am so happy for your comment to me before I mistook bj as a man….LOL, sorry bj????
            Yes Linda the vile name calling & moronic posts these fools leave are insulting. But just imagine whenever they sprew their vile comments as a but hole puckering & unpuckering because that’s basically what they are. Linda darling, please don’t leave me alone in them other blogs. I enjoy reading your enlightening posts. & there is absolutely nothing wrong with you defending your fellow comrades. So stay on course baby, we are with you 100%!!

          • Linda, So you are not posting here anymore. I shall really miss you. And with these sick idiots coming on here, we truly need people like you who post the truth.

          • Colleen: Even though I will not post Renewed Right any longer, I see you have continued. So just as a precaution, l just what you to know Dr. JD ( I think that’s his new name anyway) that is Spanky/Donald Duck/Elmer Fudd oh hell he uses too many names to list. It’s HIM again. Pretending to be a doctor and being intelligent. I know you can certainly hold your own. But as your friend I want you to know this info.
            I told Spanky off three times on the AOC story and I’m done .I know, as we speak, he will come back on using other names as well. But I will handle it accordingly .Have a blessed day, my friend…I know you, bj, and others have my back and I am VERY grateful for this…..But you also know you have others covering your back as well, so if I go away, you will never be alone…..

        • bj; Thank you for your VERY kind words. For now, I will continue to post here on Culture Watch. Even though some very ill-informed Dems. come here and show their ignorance, they are not vile like that redman is on Renewed Right. He has been reported and still R.R. ignore common decency and do not block him.
          There are one or two others that posts under so many different names on Patriot Pulse, and because they were called out by me on their deception, they have now a vendetta against me. Normally, I would just ignore their childish behavior. But right now I am battling cancer, so I am more vulnerable than usual. But you know bj I will ALWAYS have your back and I will continue the battle on these sites and in real life. But ,as long as that have the phony Julio and redman on Renewed, I refuse to post there…
          Thank you again and GOD BLESS…

          • My dear friend
            I’m so sorry for your suffering. GOD bless you my dear. You are a strong woman, & a wonderful soldier in our fight against the enemies of America. Just like you told bj you will always have his back, I promise you I will always have yours!

          • Linda, I am very sorry to hear that you have cancer. I pray that you will be victorious over that terrible disease. Yes, there are some very vile people whom satan has recruited to come on here and attack us. I will continue to tell them the truth that they deny. And Colleen, I do not mean to pick on you at all. I always enjoy your postings. But I am female.

    • So where do the democrats fit in?
      Apparently they are the ones that lack biblical knowledge.
      What about your past comments?
      Why suddenly you post something that doesn’t apply to you?
      Maybe you should copy your comments so you don’t make a fool out of yourself.

  7. The reason most Americans don’t buy into the conservative abortion agenda is that you guys don’t give a rats ass about the welfare of babies after birth.

    • Eric; If a couple would use some common sense, there wouldn’t be a need for abortion at all now would there? And as far about giving a rats ass about the welfare of babies after birth, we most certainly do. Read Southern Patriot’s post. It’s the ignorant, selfish Democrats that doesn’t care about anything except control and power. Now go thank your mother for being a conservative for not aborting you!!!

    • So says Eric who wants the US to adopt the whole world. I worked for Medicaid. WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO TAKE CARE OF EVERYONE’S NEEDS. YOU ARE A CHILD OR YOU WOULD KNOW THAT.
      IN FACT, FAMILIES END UP TAKING CARE OF BABIES – OFTEN GRANDMOTHERS. YES, WE CARE AND WE ARE BETTER EXAMPLES OF CARING THAN ARE DEMOCRATS WHO JUST WANT EVERYONE TO THINK THEY CARE.
      WHEN ACTUALLY, DEMOCRATS CAGED THE JAPANESE, HAVE FOUGHT TO LIMIT WELFARE AND ABORT CHILDREN BY THE MILLIONS.

  8. Since God created Lucifer then became Satan ( the adversarie) there can not be Satanism without the almighty God, hence go suck some bologna.

    • It is very obvious that you have no clue at all who God is or His great love for you. YOU get to choose whether you want to follow Jesus to Heaven or satan to Hell. Jesus loves you so much that He came and died and went to Hell so YOU can go to Heaven. It costs nothing. Jesus paid it all on the cross. You can reject Him, but you WILL stand before Him to be judged. Now, YOU go suck some bologna

  9. Abortion should be required for all Democrat Rat families. This would prevent the communist take over of the US and insure that no fool ever holds office again.

  10. ‪Expose, Boycott, Sue, prosecute and bring to justice all these deep state treasonous Godless NAZI commie liberal demoncrats and RINOs post-haste,Patriots! Drain the rat infested swamp President Trump!‬!

  11. You don’t have to be a Christian in order to object to abortion.
    You have to be a very COLD person to encourage abortion.
    The young girls often feel remorse and regret after having an abortion.
    I was a volunteer working with teens and will never forget the HORRIBLE regrets a young woman had a few days after placing her baby up for adoption. AND THAT CHILD LIVED!
    I HAVE NEVER HEARD SOMEONE CRY SO HARD AND WITH SUCH ANGUISH!
    HER HEART WAS LITERALLY BROKEN!

  12. Christian, Muslim, no belief, alien, illegal, whatever, YOU determine if YOU believe YOU have the right to murder another life! What gives YOU the right to be so stupid as to kill an innocent because YOU did unprotected sex? YOU CAUSED BIT!

  13. I didn’t even bother to read this article. Just the headline was all I needed to read & I know that nothing Satan tries against christians will ever succeed. He never has & never will win…. he has the libs already reserving space at his abode.

  14. Absolutely no! Abortion is killing a human life period. It goes totally against God and our country is paying for its sin!!!

  15. I honestly thought that was I found a ‘way’! I have a friend that spoke, rather eloquently, on the subject and I found my position changing…in the wrong direction! The ‘short’ version is if ANYONE had access, then EVERYBODY has access….NO EXCEPTIONS! THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING BETTER! Abortion should involve a patient,(daddy), trusted doctor, spiritual guide! It cannot be contraception!

  16. I just wish that we didn’t have to have the problem of abortion to begin with. If you dont have sex till you get married then you dont have this. I know that’s a pie in the sky wish but I wish it anyway. I also think the breakdown of family and morals has alot to do with young people having sex and also having unprotected sex. We have to start valuing each other again and valuing life. I know I have simple ideas but I’m just tired of all the hate.

    • Carole, the problem is that the dem party has no morals. They have thrown God out and do not care about right and wrong. THEY decide what is right or wrong. The dem party is ruled by satan. They are losers.

  17. Abortion is the murder of the most helpless and innocent human beings. Life begins at conception. That is a scientific fact. Libs swear by science when it suits their sick agenda, but if not, they ignore it. And there is no way that satan or his followers…dems, atheists, muslims, etc. …can win against God. There will be a final battle between God and His people and satan and his people. God wins. I am on the winning side, and everyone else has the same chance to join Jesus.

  18. While conservative on almost every other issue, I think abortion should be an available choice for people. Look at how gruesome were the back-alley abortions done before 1973. I had an acquaintance who made his living doing abortions in his dining room, and he was a college student working toward a masters in biochemistry. Much like alcohol during prohibition and illegal drugs now, people will find a way to get what they feel they need. We are all better off when these things are done in a civil, safe manner. I do not favor abortions, per se, as they are difficult and painful, but I do favor their availability for people who feel they are necessary.

    • So you think it is okay for the most helpless and innocent human beings to be murdered. Life begins at conception. It is a BABY they are killing

    • Ernst; There is no reason for a woman to get pregnant in these times. Too many options available for them not to get pregnant. Abortion has been the acceptable form of birth control now. A convenience instead of using common sense to prevent becoming pregnant in the first place. Abortion is murder, plain and simple…

  19. Life begins at the point of conception! Roe V. Wade must be overturned and I believe it will . There are Radical Liberal Left States like California that will be the last States standing when it is overturned to fight against it tooth and nail , But it will happen! The Supreme Court under President Trump will become Conservative and will overturn one of the most Evil laws that has ever been passed by the Supreme Court . All who believe that the unborn must also be protected must vote in 2020! If everyone does this will happen .

  20. How about aspirin therapy for the sexually irresponsible? Hold just one between the knees! In seriousness, this begins with irresponsibility and instant gratification. I’m pro birth control, but killing a fetus after it’s developed is murder. Be responsible people, yes men too.

  21. Ok so you want to stop the abortions just tell everyone the truth many of the babies that you approve to be aborted have lost their chances to become transgender or other than man and women gender. I would bet that would make the current baby producing generation fight for the possibility of a transgender baby being killed via abortion to cease. Transgender is the current style or so I am being told by the media, gay parades and libraries with reading times allocated for corrupting the youngsters with this hoopla. If all the children keep getting aborted who will they read to?

  22. It is a scientific fact that in the last 3 months of pregnancy, there is a developed life as well as deep health risks to the mother for aborting the child at that time and therefore, I think abortion in the last trimester should be eligible for liability to the doctor who performs an abortion at that time. Now, the pro-abortion left wants post birth abortion legalized which any sane individual with a moral compass should recognize as murder! I compliment the Satanic Temple for being honest about who it idolizes as a deity which should be a warning to those of us who support good over evil!

  23. I think it’s very interesting that the “pro-choice” side is not pro INFORMED choice. If abortion is so safe and so harmless why object to things like the regular disclosure documents you get for any medical procedure from a colonoscopy to getting your wisdom teeth removed? Why object to ultra-sound laws if the baby is “just a clump of cells”? The abortion industry is built on lies and greed and anything that threatens that must be banned.

  24. God wants each of us to make right choices, one of which is TO RESPECT AND HONOR ALL LIFE. Before mankind can enter a higher spiritual plane of existence, we must honor each other and all of life on this material world before we can ascend in spiritual consciousness. We still have free-will choice in what we call 3rd Dimensional Living. However, Satan is allowed to do his best here, too. As a woman, I could never accept abortion and chose to give LIFE to three beautiful children.Taking that challenge, my husband of 51 yrs and I have also been blessed with 7 wonderful grandchildren who now have the opportunity to grow spiritually also, making their own choices. My life example to THEM is in raising Butterflies in my wildflower garden and teaching others to raise honeybees without chemicals. Not a bad way to be remembered! A grandmother

  25. Hey, what is the difference – to abort (kill) a child or put a bullet between the eyes of those satanic worshipers? Yet God somehow loves even them and waiting for their repentance. Simple american stupidity:- how did you let satanic worshipers to grow roots in this country instead of just burn them alive?

  26. Satan will rule this Earth for a brief time, but he only has power as in the Scriptures and the Lord is ruler of all that is written. Christians are not surprised by any of these current events, for it is written and what is written shall come to pass. When Jesus returns, EVERY KNEE WILL BOW.

  27. I think their should not be abortion. The woman should have to go through the nine months,, then give them up for adoption. They should have the morning after pill if they had unprotected sex or was raped.

  28. The Supreme Court figuratively speaking, shot themselves in the foot when they said Atheism was a religion. Satanists believe in Satan and Satan is a real entity spoken of in the same Bible that they reject. My point is that the Supreme Court cannot now give deference to Satanists, Atheists, deferring to Satanists over Christians. That would be an establishment of religion, outlawed by the Constitution. Atheists,Secularists, Satanists,etc. are engaged in the most heinous attack against the rights of those of us who do believe in God. The right to life is one of the concepts that this nation was founded on. The advancement of that right for ourselves AND our “Posterity”(Children, born and unborn) is IN THE NATIONAL INTEREST.

  29. ABORTION must be illegal . . . It is the murdering of a U.S. (unborn) citizen, the most helpless of ALL citizens. The Bible states that the taking of an innocent life is an ABOMINATION (MUCH WORSE than just a sin) in Proverbs the 6th chapter.

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