Duke University is attacking Christians in a way that will make you furious

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The Leftists’ war on Christianity just escalated.

Religious freedoms in America are under constant assault.

Now Christians at Duke University are being shut down in a despicable way.

Far-Left activists have slapped a massive target on the backs of Christians.

If it’s not Christian bakers, florists, photographers, or actors, it’s someone else.

Devout Christians on college campuses are particularly under fire.

And now Duke University is denying a Christian group recognition from the school by arguing they must allow gay students to be in leadership roles even though that violates their religious beliefs.

Campus Reform reports:

Duke University’s student government senate voted to deny recognition to a Christian group on Wednesday because of its leadership team requirements, which do not allow LGBT members to be on the leadership team.

Members of the student senate raised concerns about Young Life’s policy, according to The Duke Chronicle. The senate also talked about how this could discourage people who are LGBT from joining the club.

Rachel Baber, a Young-Life leader for Durham-Chapel Hill, said that the organization does have an “anti-discrimination clause” and will not stop LGBT people from joining the organization, according to the report.

So gay students are perfectly welcome to join the group, but that isn’t enough for the activists.

They must have total and complete control.

We’ve seen this with the case of Jack Phillips, the Christian baker in Colorado whose case went all the way to the Supreme Court.

Leftists are still going hard after him.

The war on Christianity is a serious problem in America.

Far-Left activists have chipped away at the foundation of Christianity for a long time.

Atheistic societies have been the most brutal in human history, responsible for over 150 million deaths in the names of socialism and fascism.

Karl Marx, the Left’s prophet, commented that religion was the “opium of the people.”

He and other Leftists understood that religious people are far less likely to buy into the disturbing vision of socialism, an ideology that views human beings as disposable.

Religion also goes hand-in-hand with family values, and the far Left has been trying to destroy the family for decades.

Second-wave feminists from the 1960s openly stated the family was an oppressive structure that needed to be dismantled.

The Left has a plan to erode family values that they’ve been implementing for decades.

That’s why cultural battles like the one at Duke matter.

Do you believe Christianity and family values are under assault?

Join the conversation by leaving your thoughts in the comment section.

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  2. The Bible condemns fornication alongside homosexuality. Will college Christians exclude fornicators, too?

    “I say this by way of concession, not as a regulation. I wish all men were as I [Paul] am [celibate]… but if they cannot restrain their passions, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to burn [with desire]…” (I Corinthians 7:6-9)

    “This is God’s will — your sanctification, that you keep yourselves from sexual immorality, that each of you learn how to take his own wife in purity and honor, not in lustful passion like the gentiles who have no knowledge of God.” (I Thessalonians 4:3-5)

    “Make no mistake, no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers or drunkards or slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.” (I Corinthians 6:9-10 [NEB])

    “…let us put off the works of darkness and let us put on the armor of light. Let us behave ourselves decently as befits the daytime, not in carousing and drinking, not in immorality and debauchery, not in quarreling and jealousy. Instead, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ; do not make provision for the flesh to gratify its cravings.” (Romans 13:12-14)

    Paul told the gentiles to train themselves for godliness, to practice self-control and lead upright, godly lives (Galatians 5:23; I Timothy 4:7; II Timothy 1:7; Titus 2:11-12). He instructed them to ALWAYS pray constantly. (I Thessalonians 5:17)

    According to Paul, women should cover their heads while worshipping, and long hair on males is dishonorable. (I Corinthians 11:5-14)

    Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (I Timothy 2:9)

  3. Vasu: Just like Duke University, YOU are trying to silent true Christians and lecturing us about something you know nothing about. We do not abide by your Nazi propaganda. Duke University should be sued for this discrimination and start to put a end to this PC nonsense!!

  4. “Nazi propaganda” ?! Hitler sent LGBTs into the gas chambers. Sexual morality for Christians is detailed in I Corinthians 7. If Christians actually followed the New Testament commands against fornication and sexual immorality in general (Romans 1:24-27; I Corinthians 5:1,9-12, 6:9-10,15,18; I Thessalonians 4:3-5; ); as well as the commands that women cover their heads while worshiping (I Corinthians 11:5-14); Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes (I Timothy 2:9); Christian women are to keep silent in the churches and Christian women are not allowed to teach nor hold authority over men (I Corinthians 14:34-35; I Timothy 2:11-15)… Christianity would resemble Islam!

  5. Vasu: I don’t take advice from a Hindu . And stop already about fornication and all the rest of your blather! What exactly happens in your religion and your motherland????Oh yes, Hitler did send gays to the gas chambers as well as millions of other human beings. What does your party support? Killing innocent babies by way of abortions? So that’s just fine, isn’t it?? Christianity does not resemble Islam you fool. But you do not deserve any more of my time…

  6. Linda M. Don’t waste your time with this idiot Vasu. He’s just a cut and paste lap dog for his Democrat propaganda BS. And we all know what that party supports. He’s not worth anyone with morals and a conscience the time of day.

  7. Just another day in the neighborhood, hey Vasu?? Is Mommie out running errands and you stole her password to the computer? Who are you getting all your information from, because I know your not intelligent enough to come up with all this blather all on your own? Did Commie, or sorry Mommie leave you a long list of items to include in your “comments” while she was out?

  8. I Corinthians 6:9-11 says, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you.” (KJV) I’ve never heard conservative Christians cite Paul’s claim that the risen Jesus told him three times “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” as a license to indulge in or merely excuse homosexuality nor abortion, etc., but since Paul wrote that some of his followers *were* homosexuals, the implication is that they can be changed. Paul’s words in I Corinthians 6:9-11 indicate that coming to Christ means giving up fornication, too, as he condemns both fornication and homosexuality in the same verse. By the way, I’m a pro-life Democrat, working with others to change our party’s platform, and I’ve stood up for people of faith (including Christians!) on a number of occasions. I merely object to religious hypocrisy.

  9. The reincarnationist position is that sexual orientation, like height or skin color, is determined by one’s karma from previous lives. Conversion therapy is psychologically damaging. A lovely devotee of Krishna here in the SF Bay Area, Lalita dasi (Leona Oster) is only 4′ 8″ tall, and she’s commented that it’s her karma in this life to be short. There’s no conversation therapy that could make her 5′ 4″, without damaging her body or killing her. Similarly, one’s skin color can’t be changed, either: bleaching a black person’s skin to appear white would only damage the individual.

    “Conversion” therapy only makes sense if you presume homosexuality, like fornication, is a choice. I Corinthians 6:9-11 says, “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you.” (KJV)

    I’ve never heard conservative Christians cite Paul’s claim that the risen Jesus told him three times “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” as a license to indulge in or merely excuse homosexuality nor abortion, etc., but since Paul wrote that some of his followers *were* homosexuals, the implication is that they can be changed. Paul’s words in I Corinthians 6:9-11 indicate that coming to Christ means giving up fornication, too, as he condemns both fornication and homosexuality in the same verse. By the way, I’m a pro-life Democrat, working with others to change our party’s platform, and I’ve stood up for people of faith (including Christians!) on a number of occasions. I merely object to religious hypocrisy.

    It seems to me conservative Christians are selectively deciding which verses of Scripture they want to follow and which they want to ignore, so it’s impossible to have a serious theological conversation with them about animals and their rights. And we believe we can’t end abortion and war until we first abolish the killing of animals. That’s the reincarnationist position, too. No one in the Krishna Consciousness movement, indeed, no true believer in karma and reincarnation can cooperate with meat-eating “pro-lifers” until they’re prepared to first abolish the killing of animals.

    And they don’t have to “convert” to our religion to do that. They can follow Christian vegetarians throughout history, they can follow Christian vegans today, they can follow current trends in animal liberation theology (Reverend Marc Wessels, Reverend Andrew Linzey, etc.), or they can join a secular organization like People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA). Actually, I’d have more respect for them if they were to join PETA, since then they’d be strictly vegan, whereas Krishna devotees have yet to address the cow-killing of the dairy industry, all the while quoting Srila Prabhupada’s Bhagavad-gita purports that “slaughter is the way of the subhumans,” “animal-killing is prominent among the demoniac,” etc. This isn’t religion. It’s hypocrisy.

  10. The apostle Paul wrote in I Corinthians Chapter 7:

    “It is good for a man not to touch a woman, but because of prevailing immoralities, let every man have his own wife and let every woman have her own husband.

    “The husband must render to his wife the obligations that are due her, and similarly the wife to her husband…

    “Do not deprive each other, except by mutual agreement for a time to devote yourselves unhindered by prayer; and come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you on account of your lack of self-control.”

    (The apostle Paul’s words here suggest regulated or restricted sexual activity, even within marriage!)

    “I say this by way of concession, not as a regulation. I wish all were as I am (celibate), but each person has his own gift from God, the one in this direction, the other in that.

    “To the single and the widows, I say that it is good for them to remain as I am (celibate); but if they cannot restrain their passions, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to burn (with desire).

    “To the married couples I command — not really I but the Lord — that the wife must not leave her husband; and in case she does separate, she must either stay single or make up with her husband. And the husband must not divorce his wife.

    “…if the unbeliever wants to separate, let there be separation…”

    (Jesus forbade divorce, except in the case of unfaithfulness. And here we see Paul forbidding divorce, except in the case of an unbeliever demanding separation!)

    “Regarding the unmarried I have no divine injunction, but as one who has received mercy from the Lord to be trustworthy, I give my opinion… it is good for a person to remain in his present situation.

    “Are you united to a wife? do not seek release. Are you unattached to a woman? Do not seek a wife. But in case you marry, you do not sin; nor does the unmarried woman sin if she marries…

    “The single person is concerned with the Lord’s affairs, how to please the Lord, but the married person is concerned with things of the world, how to please his wife; he has divided interests.

    “The unmarried woman or the virgin is interested in the Lord’s affairs, that she may be dedicated to Him in body and spirit; but the married woman is concerned with things of the world, how she may please her husband.”

    “I mention this for your own good, not to throw a rope around you but to promote proper behavior and undisturbed devotion to the Lord.”

  11. For Vasu: You love to come on this Christian site and TRY to quote our bible. Which you have no clue it’s meaning. Well, I did a little research about YOUR religion and what’s been going on in your motherland. Hinduism seems to promote violence against any other religion. Especially Christians. Assaults on Christian churches. Christian women gang raped and beaten. A pastor found hung because he complained about the radical Hindus. Over 12,000 + Christians reported attacked, and many more not reported. But yet you state Christianity resembles Islam?? Plus you live in this country under the protection of our freedom of speech and our Constitution and proudly proclaim you are a Democrat for life? I bet you are, because that party really resembles what YOUR religion stands for; hate of Christians and NWO…
    I used to believe you were this very misguided, delusional Leftists. But I now see what a danger you are…Thank our one and only GOD most of us don’t follow or believe your twisted drivel .

  12. I’m a gay Christan man that comes from a strong family value. I believe that a person has good intentions and their heart is in the right place that that is all that matters to God. With that said, I support the Christian group AB Duke University, I support the baker in Colorado, why should my rights override his rights you just simply go to a different Baker. And all my gay friends agree on one thing we don’t know where all this gay rights activist stuff is even coming from, I think it mostly comes from far left straight people. what they’re doing doesn’t serve the gay community any more than Al sharpton or Jesse Jackson serves the black community and good light or Maxine Waters, they’re an embarrassment and a disgrace the conservative black of America. And so is this so-called gay agenda. they don’t represent me or any of my friends that I’ve talked to that are gay. God bless America.

  13. When was the last time someone was thrown to the lions? Anyone know of any crucifixions anywhere? Just wondering.

  14. What kind of an idiot foreigner name is Vasu Murti while IT is only hogging up the comments section, with their long winded control freak bull crap. Someone needs to find this thing/fiend and have a public execution by burning it at the stake, or driving one through it’s cold reptile heart, if it has one. I’m sure it’s a witch/warlock/vampire or any other kind of America hating Dike Hillary commie groupie Democrat control freak and God hater too. Screw you Vagina Murky.

  15. Duke should be sued for discrimination. That’s what the leftist are doing when they can’t get their way. GOD will make the way for his children. You also have to remember what Revelations states; “In the last days my children will be persecuted for my namesake”. This shows the devil hard at work trying to destroying GODS work. Be strong, for GOD is. With you. ALWAYS!

  16. vasu: If Hitler sent the LGTBs to the gas chambers, he followed God’s word: Leviticus 20.13. God: “they shall surely be put to death”.

  17. Vasu; you’re just what the devil loves. A pupit. GOD loves all. But, hates the sins people do. However, you can be forgiven through JESUS by trusting him in forgiving your son’s. No one is perfect and won’t until his children are home with him. As for the devil and his pupits, total separation from heaven and casted into total darkness for eternally. May GOD have mercy on you.

  18. Rick I agree 100%! I,d sue them in a heart beat, if you win take the money and leave that GODLESS PLACE! If you don’t win all the more reason to leave! SHAME ON “DEVIL DUKE UNIVERSITY!”

  19. Christians are being killed every day in the middle East. Children are being beheaded and raped by so called religion of peace, ” Islam”. Another tool of the devil. If people pulled their heads out of the ground. They would see what the devil is doing. Many people would rather turn away and say; why should I care? It doesn’t effect me. That’s what the devil wants.

  20. Isn’t Duke BB coach K a Christian? He should threaten the Duke Administration to resign if they don’t put an end to this nonsense. Watch how quickly all this crap will cease. There isn’t a school in the country that wouldn’t jump at the opportunity to sign coach K to a contract.

  21. Religion comes to us from the fertile imaginations of the ancients. The beginnings of religion was the imagination of the many Pagan Gods. In time, paganism morphed into monotheism. Today, especially in America, Christianity has been corrupted and diverted to the ends of Jew Zionism. In a highly successful psychological operation, at the turn of the twentieth century, the Jews, atheist Jews I might add, produced the Scofield Study Bible. What the Scofield study bible did was it discarded the replacement theology that had held sway in Christianity since the time of Christ. It replaced that theology with something that they call dispensationalism. Thereby, atheist Jews re-inserted into the Christian theology the belief that the Jews were Gods chosen people, always had been and always would be. At the same time, re-emphasizing in the mind of the Goyim, that they must honor the Jews as Gods chosen people and support Israel. Some 10,000 dead American soldiers later, the Jews are pressing U.S. for another war for Israel. This time, Iran. Truly, the Jews have made fools of my people.

  22. God bless you, James. That is the most intelligent view I have ever seen on this subject. If everyone felt this way it would eliminate all the hatred and vitriol on both sides of the issue. Thank you.

  23. I agree with you Rick B. Duke should be sued for discrimination. So sick of this same old crap. This is truly the devils work. Just as everything the democrats (left) do to silence Christians. Have you ever heard of the wrath of God?

  24. Vasu, is it considered a sin in Hinduism to lie? Hitler, himself gay, not only welcomed but encouraged other gays to join. His ‘girlfriend’ Eva, actually Evan, von Braun, was a transvestite dancer at the caberets that were very popular with the Nazis.
    And it is nothing but ridiculous and insulting how religion-hating Democrats go to scriptures whenever they believe they can twist them to fit their agendas, the only thing they are showing are their own ignorant, bigoted, and elitist attitude in believing that Christians and Conservatives are actually so stupid as to believe their lies. We are not, so why don’t you take your fictional diatribes elsewhere?

  25. Actually, I am well informed about Young Life and their standards for leadership. You can’t be having sex outside of marriage and be in leadership. This would have been easy for you to discover instead of assuming otherwise.

  26. I have, for some time now, considered Duke U as a secular, and un-Christian, institution. Their chapel is a den of sinful activities contrary to Christ!………. SAD!!!

  27. Many ‘reincarnationists’ also believe that people who do not follow your god are reincarnated into lower life forms, like animals and insects, and as a result let them roam free in their homes and villages, along with pilgrimages to their ‘holy’ Ganges river to bathe in the raw sewage dumped upstream. As a result, many of those villages are overcome with filth and disease.
    How anyone can hold that up as superior to a belief system that promotes cleanliness and staying healthy is a mystery to me.

  28. And how are the Muslim groups fairing on the Duke campus? A group also against homosexuality…in Muslim countries they like to throw them off buildings. I’ll bet Duke does not DARE interfere with Muslim groups…too P.C., right?

  29. You are correct. Many Amerikan Christians use a “cafeteria-buffet” approach to the bible. They pick and choose those passages that they feel enforces their own attitudes and biases. Well heck, if you want the total package, then I suppose we should stone Grandma in the public square for wearing a sweater made from different threads. Cotton AND wool? Get your stones, folks! Religious freedom in America does NOT mean the freedom to hate and discriminate!

  30. Fornication or promiscuity . . . if you are about doing these things, you are not leadership material in any Christian organization! If this is the position being taken, this does not mean LGBT folks are the only group being directed at with this position . . . obviously EVERYONE IS BEING TOLD THIS! It’s time to take the School to Court ! ! !

  31. Vasu, you quote the Bible but know NOTHING at all about what it teaches. You are void of understanding. You have not applied what you read. You know nothing at all about the great love and sacrifice of Jesus for you. Until you come to Jesus and accept Him as the Lord of your life, your words mean nothing at all.

  32. Linda, yes Vasu is a fool, and shall remain a fool because he has no concept of what the Bible teaches. It is just a bunch of words he uses to try to state his sick agenda. He has not applied what he read. God will not be used in such a way.

  33. Joe, your ignorance is profound. It is very obvious that you know nothing at all about what the Bible teaches. Try actually studying it to see how ignorant you are. Pay special attention to the NEW Testament where Jesus fulfilled OT Jewish rituals, which no longer apply. You are a fool.

  34. Kenneth, Muslims torture and kill Christians all the time. The Quran commands that ALL must serve Allah or die. The goal of Islam is total world control. But it is not even a religion. It is Muhammad’s revenge against Christians and Jews because they would not associate with him. He was very evil and if not for the Crusaders taking back their stolen lands, we may well all be facing Mecca five times a day to pray.

  35. Why does anybody give that athiest nutcase the time of day. He is a sick puppet of the Dem/Left and we all know how sick & evil they are.
    VOTE MAGA 2020!!!!!

  36. manydog, you have no clue of the truth. That is very obvious. You have no clue who God is or what a Christian is. Try actually reading the Bible. YES, the Jews ARE God’s chosen people. But just go ahead and call God a liar and see how far you get. Truly you are the fool.

  37. Am trying again…
    Joe, your ignorance is profound. It is very obvious that you know nothing at all about what the Bible teaches. Try actually studying it to see how ignorant you are. Pay special attention to the NEW Testament where Jesus fulfilled OT Jewish rituals, which no longer apply. You are a fool.

  38. Michael, Vasu just keeps coming here and copying and pasting his sick nonsense. He refuses to go away. He must be planted by satan to torture us.

  39. James, the alphabet crowd has lost so much ground when they were beginning to be accepted for what each person contributed to society in their own way and for the good of all. Now, they have turned the tables on themselves. You can’t demand or legislate respect……YOU HAVE TO EARN IT.

  40. MORE THE HER UNINTELLIGENT RHETORIC, vasu likes to run off at the mouth believing she is intelligent when she is just a copier without a thought or brain of her own.

  41. Vasu, I am pretty certain, is a bot, programmed to generate and post the comments. I give a response, occasionally, hoping to get through to the “Democrats for the Life of America” group that operates it, since they are, apparently, too much the cowards to come here with their arguments themselves.

  42. Nobody is being pushed out their just not going to be in “leadership “ and neither should those having sex outside marriage or committing adultery. Which they probably don’t allow either. Any one is welcome but the truth to the word of God needs to be taught and followed. Having a transgender teach the children or preach is wrong ! Yes God is love and loves all but as a parent if my child doesn’t follow my rules he’s gonna get disciplined. God will discipline you’ll either turn from what your doing that is against him or suffer the consequences.

  43. David Duke, is that you? Do you still consider Omar to be the most important person in Congress?
    You neonazi types are sick, supporting those that would destroy your own country just because they agree with your rabid antisemitism.

  44. Do African/American Clubs or Frats allow White students to join? I don’t think so. SO why must the left condemn Christians for sticking to their beliefs? They don’t need to have people that aren’t of the same faith join their group. “TO EACH…THEIR OWN”!!!!

  45. Hitler also sent Catholics into the gas chambers. And Jews. This was not a terrible form of religious discrimination?

  46. It’s my understanding that when American Tobacco Company president James Buchanan Duke established the Duke Endowment in 1924, Methodist-affiliated primary beneficiary Trinity College in Durham changed its name to Duke University in honor of his father, & it was understood that this school was primarily intended to educate Methodist men from the two Carolinas, though there was no restriction on the enrollment of women. In less than a century, it has transformed itself from a small liberal arts college to a national university that looks nothing like the old Trinity. In 2017, there was a total enrollment of 16,130, of which 41.5% were undergraduates, with 50.2% overall being women & only 43.6% white. The Class of 2022 includes 1,740 undergraduates, only 247 of those (or a mere 15.6% of the total) being from the two Carolinas. In 2016, the original provision that 2/3 of the board of trustees must be appointed by the UMC (United Methodist Church) was somehow abolished; & in January of this year, Duke signed a petition calling on the denomination to embrace LGBTQ+ inclusivity within the church. This document holds that the church’s “core religious & humanistic values are that all persons are of sacred worth & equal standing,” despite the fact that the UMC’s current Book of Discipline states that “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.” Not surprisingly, Duke’s Divinity School has recently come under fire for issues relating to diversity & inclusion after a protest erupted during its dean’s 2018 State of the School speech addressing the university’s treatment & view of LGBTQ+ individuals & African-Americans. Duke, Syracuse, Emory, SMU, Boston University, American University, & Wofford are among the 93 US colleges & universities still affiliated with the UMC, most of them only loosely. Vanderbilt severed its ties completely way back in 1914, USC in 1952, & Northwestern in 1972. Clearly, traditional Christian & American values began to erode years ago in our institutions of higher learning, & this continued erosion is now moving forward at an alarming rate.

  47. To achieve a proper way to view and cope with this plethora of state of the world problems and religious persecution herein arising, may I sincerely offer this quote from holy scripture. It is located in The HOLY BIBLE: OT, THE PROVERBS, Chapter 3, verses 5 and 6, which states … “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not rely on your own insight. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He will make straight your paths.” Amen.

    The Holy Spirit … the manifestation Jesus described as the “comforter,” and about whom He mentioned to His disciples and discussed with them in some detail before His Crucifixion, and who Jesus said would come from Father God and would descend upon them to continue to teach them as He was doing at that very moment in time … has a “blessed” way of granting us (if we but ask) an amazing inner peace, spiritual insight, and strength, which miraculously will enable us to overcome all of our worldly worries and troubles, as discouraged as we feel we may be! Thanks be to God!

  48. Linda, you are right on about India’s violence against Christians. I don’t know if you used Open Doors in your research, but if you haven’t, check them out. I have been asking Vasu why he tolerates it and have gotten no answer.

  49. Hey everyone! Did you know that you can click on vasu’s name and get to his website??? There is a photo and info. I passed my curser over his name and it changed color, so I clicked on it and was very surprised. There is eve a contact I may just try…

  50. Well, it’s not his website, but it does give info on his writings. So guess he is a real person, for those who were wondering.

  51. Coach K please get your head out of your ass and speak up on behalf of the vey Christian faith you so notably practice. Secularism has grabbed Duke and even Coach K hides and cowers. Defend Christ or play basketball, your choice.

  52. No sir it will not. Because the living Church guided by God’s Holy Spirit (which inspired the Bible ) is the true interpreter of the Bible today. Ancient customs that belong to ancient cultures are not infallible forever. Morality is always relevant. But we are People of God redeemed by His living Son Our Savior, not people of the book not of the dead letter of legalistic misinterpreting out of context. The life of the Church not one passage of a letter of St. Paul is Christ’s truth as a whole and sinners are not stoned to death but called to mercy and repentance and Life in God’s love and our love.

  53. Vasu: If not for the women, some denominations would have NEVER gotten started. MEN have failed to take the Biblical law seriously & have left the woman to raise the child. The man is SUPPOSED to be the one that teaches God’s Word to the children, & discipline them when they get out of line. The woman is supposed to take care of the house, make sure there’s food to eat, teach the girls how to keep house, etc. But, these last 20 or 30 years, too many men have to decided they don’t want to be the priest of the family, & leaves it to the mother to teach it to the children. As for the keeping silent in the church, that was for back in Paul’s day, when the church was mostly outside. If they got to meet in the temple, it was JEWISH law for them to not correct the men, nor to argue with one. And, my aunt was a minister for 30 years, & did a fine job.

  54. But, people who only have a head knowledge of the Bible, are more of a hinderance to those who try to live by Jesus’ teachings. Are we perfect? Absolutely not! Jesus is the ONLY perfect person to ever walk this earth. A lot of the Scriptures were written when the church was just starting out, so customs have modified over the years. And, if the men didn’t abandon their wives, making them take up the task of building the church up, it wouldn’t be alive today. When my 3 boys were small, their dad left us, & I finally got a divorce because of his infidelity. Then when I remarried, that husband was the same way, AND, an alcoholic. So I left him, & moved to Tennessee. We divorced too. But, again I had a Biblical excuse, infidelity again. So life is not perfect, especially when you try to leave God OUT of your life. Which I did, up until 1990. I let Him back in to my life, but this time I was serious about serving Him, & my life has never been the same. A little salvation wouldn’t hurt these leftists either, nor some conservatives. That’s what’s wrong with this country, pure old sin. satan controls the minds & lives of those who don’t believe in God, or Jesus. When we kicked God out of school, is when all the country started going to h$#l.

  55. Christians are taught to love everybody, & to try to teach them the Truth. But, if I have sin in MY life, I don’t need a queer or a lesbian trying to teach me that I need Jesus. And, that’s why they don’t allow homosexuals to be leaders. One sinner can not teach another sinner about God’s love. When God gave Moses the laws for the Hebrews, He plainly tells Moses that homosexuality is a STENCH in His nostrils. So that’s good enough for me. Now, I don’t believe in being mean, & mistreating them. That’s just as much of a sin as theirs. GOD gave us ALL the right to choose where we want to spend eternity, & I don’t plan on going to hell. That is GOD’S call. On Judgement Day, ALL sinners will stand before the Great White Throne, & the judge of all Judges will judge them, & they’ll be cast into the lake of fire, along with satan, & his minions, & other sinners that are there already. But, Christians DO have to appear before Jesus’ throne, & be judge by our works that we did in this life. None of us will be cast out, but we may not get many crowns to wear for not doing God’s Holy Will. So, be blessed everybody, & stand & be counted FOR liberty, & justice for all. And, vote every time you get the chance. And, PRAY for the president, he REALLY needs God’s help. And, he’s all that stands between us & somebody nuking us. God bless, & to those who DON’T believe, I pray you get your eyes open, & accept Him in your lives. You’ll be amazed at the difference it makes!

  56. That scripture you quoted, ‘My grace is sufficient for thee’ has been used a LOT. And, there is NO such thing as reincarnation. The Bible plainly says, It is appointed unto man ONCE to die. When we die, our souls go back to Him that gave them, & then we either go into paradise, or pergatory. No coming back as somebody else, or an insect, or an animal. My son is the pastor at the church that I attend, & he has used the Scripture you quoted more than once. And, he says IF the BIBLE doesn’t back up what a preacher is preaching, then it doesn’t need to be spoken from the pulpit.

  57. I was gonna say the same thing! When Jesus came into public view He told them that He was NOT come to destroy the law, but was come to fulfill it. Homosexuality is a SIN, just lying, stealing, etc. ALL will send you to hell. You have to accept Jesus as your personal Savior, James. And that means giving UP your sinful life. I’ll remember you in my prayers that you find the REAL Jesus! God bless you! Now if you don’t practice the gay life style, then you can be a saved Christian, but if you’re living the gay life style, & sleeping with others, then you CAN’T.

  58. L.Hildebrand: Another atheist that comes on these sites just to be hateful. Who exactly are you thanking ?? Or more importantly, why are you even here on this Conservative, Christian site??? Oh I know! You must be related to Vasu . Another misinformed atheist soul…
    Sad……

  59. Joe Shaw: Well you certainly show A Lot of hate with each of your postings, don’t you??? As bj and bob jones pointed out, you really are a fool and a hypocrite !!

  60. No hate involved, that’s your problem, fact is fact. I guess when the shoe is on the other foot it kinda sucks huh. This holier than thou stuff just kinda bites you sometimes. Like I said indigenous people were put on this earth in the same means and manor anyone else was. I don’t care what or how you believe and surely didn’t need some nut to teach me how to live or what to believe. All we were guilty of was living where you POS wanted to live. We didn’t try to force anything on you, it was the other way around. Surely this God you believe in couldn’t be that hateful.

  61. Everly dusty: What the heck are you talking about indigenous people ?? No My God isn’t hateful. But I’m sick of people like you attacking us for believing in HIM. So no, the shoe on the other foot analogy doesn’t fit pal….. POS….

  62. I guess you are entitled to your opinions. It isn’t really about hate you have a right to live just like anyone else, I suppose. Denial is a strange thing it assists those whom want others to conform to there agendas. We can call people names all we want, bottom line, isn’t that why we are sinners lol. Let me know when you folks are perfect instead of claiming and preaching. Kinda pretentious don’t you think lol.

  63. LH…HUH??? It is very obvious that you have no clue what a Christian even is. A Christian is someone who has come to Jesus and had their sins forgiven and accepted Him as their Savior. They will spend eternity with Him in Heaven. You have the same choice as everyone else to follow Jesus to Heaven or satan to Hell.

  64. Everly…Yes, fact is fact. And God is fact. He is there for everyone, even you. And what do you mean living where we want to live????? Try reading history. Your ignorance is profound. Your indigenous people were killing each other off long before Europeans arrived. They were far from one big happy family

  65. I don’t have the right to judge other people, if this behavior is what they want so be it. I am sure that that no man or woman is perfect there for only a power greater than myself has that right. Can you say that you are pure and only been with one man in your life, are you free of sin? Do you really need a book written by a man to guide you through life? Have you seen the face of your God? Did it not take a man and woman to create you? Where you born by immaculate conception? Not trying to insult your beliefs, just asking whom are you to judge? What book gives you the right to judge? Why would you think you are better than anyone else?

  66. Okay I guess I will leave you wonderful folks alone, you’re using to many big words for me. I kinda think I know what the word ignorance means, but profound jeez. Take some history classes then when you get down here to my level you can enlighten me and bring me up there where you Christians are.

  67. Everly dusty; You start off by saying you have no right to judge anyone. But by your previous comments, and this one, that’s all you have done. TRYING to be so sarcastically witty. Which you failed at, by the way.
    Not one Christian here has ever proclaimed they are without sin. But being a deviant, like these cross dressers are, reading children’s books to children is disgusting. We do not feel we are better than others. We just know right from wrong. Something you PC,” progressive” thinkers, do not.
    You asked if we need a book written by man to guide us through life? Why, yes we do. Because faith and believing in our GOD is something that can not be taught. You must feel it within your soul. Something I’m guessing you are sorely lacking. YOU feel you are better than others. Judging and passing YOUR judgment on us. Looking down your nose at others with your condescending attitude. How does it feel to , in your mind at least, to be so superior ? And after all you have said, then you say you are not trying to insult our beliefs. Yes you are! That was your whole intent!!
    I have made a personal observation myself about you. I have never seen your name posted before. Just like another hater on here as well. And by you defending these so called normal people( in your eyes at least), I would venture to say, you two are some of these cross dressers. Well, right or wrong, you go about your business. Just stay out of ours and our children’s. Good will always conquer evil. Remember that…..
    Oh, and on a personal note, you asked if we have ever seen the face of our GOD? No, not yet. That WILL come soon. But I have witnessed his glory everyday. I’m sorry you haven’t .Try reading the bible instead of condemning it. It might change your life….

  68. JimP; Correction please. This Everly person was not defending cross dressers. Well, not in this story at least. So I do apologize for that part of my comment to him. But he was attacking Christians. So that part of my comment stands.

  69. Jim P; It’s fine. We all make mistakes. Especially since we have to defend ourselves and our beliefs on so many stories here. We all get a little confused, at times. But I do thank you for defending Christians on that part of your comment to him. I know you are a new poster and I do remember you coming to my defense on another story. So thank you for that! Be well and GOD bless!!

  70. bj; Yes Open Doors was one of the websites I used for my research. It was horrifying to read! I know you have posted comments to Vasu about this. But I never imagined the extend of their brutal behavior! And the governor of NJ was just there visiting India and praying with them! What the heck was that all about? He should stay in our state and take care of business here first.
    You will never get a straight answer from Vasu. I’ve asked him countless times about the inhuman treatment of the elephant in his country. Since he proclaims to be such a big animal lover. Did he ever respond? No.
    He’s just a fraud, liar and deceiver and a paid lackey for the DNC. Nothing more.
    Keep up the good fight, bj!

  71. lol, actually what I know is nothing about the christian faith, denomination or what ever you call it. People have the right to believe what ever they like here in America, that’s what makes it so wonderful. I don’t believe you should be attacked for any reason, nor should anyone else for that matter. It’s an individuals own business what they believe and what they pursue in life. Just because they are different from you doesn’t give you the right to exclude or attack the other person. That is not what God is about no matter what you or your book says. If you can’t understand that, then maybe you would consider looking up the word ignorant and pay attention to the real definition. I only hope that people in today’s world will learn that to condemn another person for what they believe or do is just as wrong, for you don’t have the right to judge. This continues to be proven over and over again. Denial is a powerful thing, how many years have persons who preach the word of God been molesting children, point in case. Where was God? People go through many changes in life, key word “Change.” Another thing is that, a person does not have to be witty to poke a stick at a dog in a cage, they just need to get the dogs attention lol, the dog will do the rest. I am only using the last sentence as an example, if you truly have God or Jesus in your life, why would you even respond to such ridiculous comments in the first place lol. Again people have a right to believe whatever they choose with out condemnation, if my opinions are so profound to you lol “whatever that means to you lol” then perhaps you maybe looking for God in the wrong places.

  72. Everly Dusty; You love calling others ignorant don’t you? Then if you are so smart, why are you on this Conservative Christian site in the first place? Just to do what you are accusing us of? Passing judgment ? Being critical of others? Oh ,and it’s quite oblivious you nothing about the Christian faith. But that doesn’t stop you from being very verbal about it does it?
    I don’t find your opinions profound. I find them pathetic.
    And what is this lol you type after every sentence ? Trying to be funny? It’s not funny. Just showing others your intelligence. I also knew by your childish comment that when you stated you were going to leave us wonderful people alone. That wasn’t true either. Your not poking the dog to get anyone’s attention . You’re just a spoiled child that thinks he has all the answers, and has to have the last word…I’ve already found my God. Too bad you aren’t even searching……

  73. Thank you I needed that. The reason I am on this site is because you people apparently wanted feedback, if not, simply don’t put it out there. It’s like I mentioned before stop your whining about being attacked. Nobody cares, you point the finger whining about what other people do and say. You folks are not any better than anyone else. You can’t see what’s childish in your own comments wawawa she screwed she he screwed he and it’s not right. Don’t teach my kids this and that. What’s next, you were born a poor black child laugh out loud goofy = lol. The point is stop putting other down to support your own agenda. You people sent this crap to my email, so I thought you wanted feedback LTFOL. If you don’t like it, don’t reply and stop sending lies to my email. Or didn’t God inform you of modern technology. Read your book ie. those hypocrites.

  74. And do not forget that the Bible says that to call someone a fool, make you the fool. You have to read all the Bible and apply it to your own life. Loving your enemy does not leave much room for this types of name calling and using the Bible to make your point should be in the essence to emulate Christ, for God is the Judge of all sin. I am also glad that Christians are standing up for the truth. There is no judgement but that which God has already judged to be sin and Christian should follow these action and spread the Good News about Christ. Though the path to hell is wide and the path is narrow too follow God in his will. Have a Great Day everyone.

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