Christians everywhere could be forced to pay for abortions after what one state just did

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To Christians, there may be nothing more repugnant than abortion.

But the Left doesn’t care about those deeply-held beliefs.

And now Christians everywhere could be forced to pay for abortions after what one state just did.

At the federal level, it is illegal for taxpayer funds to go toward abortion, which is something Democrats are working tirelessly to reverse.

One of the ways they are trying to do that is by having that funding come from the state level.

And since at least 2014, California has succeeded in that by forcing churches to fund abortion through their health insurance plans.

The move was championed by Planned Parenthood, which forced the state’s Department of Managed Health Care to send letters to health insurers to demand they force religious institutions to cover abortion.

The Christian Post reports:

In 2014, the Department of Managed Health Care (DMHC) sent a letter to health insurers that rescinded existing religious accommodations and mandated immediate coverage of abortion, regardless of existing plan language.

Skyline Church was one of the religious organizations with an affected plan. The letter didn’t announce a notice and comment period typical of a government change in policy. And it certainly didn’t ask for the input of the organizations affected. Rather, the DMHC mandated that the healthcare plans of employers like Skyline Church include coverage for elective abortion.

But it gets worse. The DMHC changed its policy after being urged to do so by Planned Parenthood. Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) attorneys discovered a series of emails from Planned Parenthood to the DMHC asking agency officials to “fix” exemptions for religious organizations that oppose abortion.

This means that, driven by activists at Planned Parenthood, California has gone out of its way to force pro-life churches, like Skyline, to fund abortions. And in the process, California will force people of faith like Lisa to be complicit in something that fundamentally violates their deepest beliefs.

This is how despicable the Left is on this issue.

Funding abortion violates the deepest-held beliefs of millions of Americans.

But the Left doesn’t care about that, and will stop at nothing in their radical quest to make abortion a form of birth control as common as taking an aspirin for a headache.

Do you think Christians should be forced to violate their religious beliefs by funding abortion?

Let us know your thoughts in the comment section below.

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  2. The only folk that want abortion is racist white folk ’cause they know it mostly porch monkey babies that get killed. They wants to stop those porch monkey babies before they grows up and rob gas stations with their hoodies and handguns held sideways ahahahahahahaha

  3. The state of California has only offended pro-life Christians, not pro-choice Christians. The Bible permits abortion. Pro-lifers must become secular.

    Genesis 38:24. Tamar’s pregnancy was proof that she was sexually active. Because she was a widow, without a husband, she was assumed to be a prostitute. Her father-in-law, Judah, ordered that she be burned alive for her crime.

    If Tamar’s fetuses had any value whatsoever, her execution would have been delayed until after their birth. There was no condemnation on Judah for deciding to take this action.

    Exodus 21:22-24. If two men are fighting and one injures a pregnant woman and the fetus is killed, he shall repay her according to the degree of injury inflicted upon *her*,and not the fetus.

    Author Brian McKinley, a born-again Christian, comments:

    “Thus we can see that if the baby is lost, it does not require a death sentence-it is not considered murder. But if the woman is lost, it is considered murder and is punished by death.”

    Halacha (Jewish Law) does define when a fetus becomes a nephesh (person), a full-fledged human being, when the head emerges from the womb. Before then, the fetus is considered a “partial-life”; it gains full human status after birth only.

    The Babylonian Talmud (Yevamot 69b) states that: “the embryo is considered to be mere water until the fortieth day.” Afterward, it is considered subhuman until it is born.

    Rashi, the great 12th century commentator on the Hebrew Bible and the Talmud, states clearly of the fetus ‘lav nephesh hu — it is not a person.’

    The Talmud contains the expression, “the thigh of its mother,” i.e., the fetus is deemed to be part and parcel of the pregnant woman’s body.

    This is grounded in Exodus 21:22. That biblical passage outlines the Mosaic Law in a case where a man is responsible for causing a woman’s miscarriage, which kills the fetus.

    If the woman survives, then the perpetrator has to pay a fine to the woman’s husband. If the woman is killed, the perpetrator is also killed. This indicates that the fetus has value, but does not have the status of a person.

    There are two additional passages in the Talmud which shed some light on abortion. They imply that the fetus is considered part of its mother:

    One section states that if a man purchases a cow that is found to be pregnant, then he is owner of both the cow and the fetus.

    Another section states that if a pregnant woman converts to Judaism, that her conversion also applies to her fetus.

    Some Jewish authorities have ruled in specific cases. one case involved a woman who becomes pregnant while nursing a child. Her milk supply would dry up. If the child is allergic to all other forms of nutrition except mother’s milk, then it would starve.

    An abortion would be permitted in this case, a potential person, would be justified to save the life of the child, an actual person.

    Judaism supports abortion access for women. Polls show 90 percent of American Jews supporting abortion rights.

    Pro-life apologists say at least the unborn has *some* value in the Old Testament, if not actual or real personhood. But the New Testament is more permissive than the Old Testament!

    In Christianity, Paul’s gospel displaces Jesus’ gospel. Jesus, a rabbi, repeatedly upheld Mosaic Law (Matthew 5:17-19; Mark 10:17-22; Luke 16:17) as did his apostles (see chapters 10, 15, and 21 of Acts). Paul, however, claims Mosaic Law has been abolished, referring to his previous adherence to the Law as “so much garbage…”

    So even if you could find a verse in the Old Testament indicating concern for the unborn, Paul, and not Jesus, says it’s “garbage.”

    Like animals in contemporary American society, the Bible accords the unborn marginal concern which is often inconsistent at best.

    Paul doesn’t say anything about abortion in any of his epistles. Paul repeatedly attacked sexual immorality.

    “This is God’s will—your sanctification, that you keep yourselves from sexual immorality, that each of you learn how to take his own wife in purity and honor, not in lustful passion like the gentiles who have no knowledge of God.” (I Thessalonians 4:3-5)

    “Make no mistake,” warned Paul, “no fornicator or idolater, none who are guilty either of adultery or of homosexual perversion, no thieves or grabbers or drunkards or slanderers or swindlers, will possess the kingdom of God.” (I Corinthians 6:9-10 [NEB])

    Paul told the gentiles to train themselves for godliness, to practice self-control and lead upright, godly lives (Galatians 5:23; I Timothy 4:7; II Timothy 1:7; Titus 2:11-12).

    He instructed them to *always* pray constantly. (I Thessalonians 5:17)

    Paul wrote further that women should cover their heads while worshiping, and that long hair on males is dishonorable. (I Corinthians 11:5-14)

    According to Paul, Christian women are to dress modestly and prudently, and are not to be adorned with braided hair, gold or pearls or expensive clothes. (I Timothy 2:9)

    Paul doesn’t say anything about abortion in any of his epistles, but would it matter if he had?

    Conservative Christians are quick to condemn anyone preaching a false gospel, but some conservative Christians argue not only that they’re not under Mosaic Law, but that they don’t have to follow Paul, either, because Paul claims the risen Jesus said to him three times “…my grace is sufficient for thee…” and they take this biblical verse as a license to do as they please.

    If their view prevails, then:

    What basis do pro-life Christians have for prohibiting abortion?

    Doesn’t “three times…” justify choice?

    Secular pro-life arguments are religion-neutral and thus applicable to everyone, including atheists and agnostics.

    The pro-life movement ALREADY HAS the support of organized religion.

    Instead of preaching to the choir, i.e., wasting time with religion, pro-lifers should focus on embryology and prenatal development, DNA, RNA, etc. to make their case to our mainstream secular society.

    The Democratic Party platform should support: Animal Rights, Defending the Affordable Care Act, Ending Citizens United, Ending Marijuana Prohibition, Giving Greater Visibility to Pro-Life Democrats, Gun Control, Net Neutrality, Raising the Minimum Wage to $15 an Hour, Responding to the Scientific Consensus on Global Warming, and a Sustainable Energy Policy.

    Democrats for Life of America, 10521 Judicial Drive, #200, Fairfax, VA 22030, (703) 424-6663

  4. Vasu, you are a lying fool, the biggest bible does not speak about allowing abortions. What about the commandment “Thou shalt not kill” and the verse “It would be better to have a millstone placed around your neck and cast into the sea than harm one of my little ones”? You are as sick as it gets. Get some help soon you murder supporter.

  5. Plenty of ignorant white folk who are irresponsible and don’t believe in personal responsibility like waiting until their financially able to afford children before they have them. I believe in abortion but only up until week 22. After that it should only be allowed for the health of the mother.

  6. 1) The “Affordable Care Act” is, and always was, a disaster. Promoted by an economic Boob.
    2) Citizens United lost a case to limit corporations (and some others) from contributing
    money directly to a party or a candidate. Judge John Paul Stevens called the majority
    decision to consider corporations as “people” and allow unchecked political spending
    as; “…a rejection of the common sense of the American people, who have recognized
    a need to prevent corporations from undermining self government.” You, Vasu, obviously
    don’t give a damn about self government.
    3) “Giving greater visibility to Pro-Life Democrats” I agree – if you can find any.
    4) Gun control could be improved – but most gun control advocates are really after not
    control, but confiscation. Where are you on this?
    5) Net neutrality – if you mean ‘keep it truly neutral’, I agree.
    6) Raising the minimum wage to $15/hr has been a job losing, bad idea wherever it has
    been tried. Mostly what it does is force businesses to cut hours and/or institute more
    automation in their businesses. Workers have bitterly complained that by increasing
    their wages, they lose welfare benefits!!
    7) The “scientific consensus” on global warming- other than opinions from those who want
    grants and others who have invested heavily in industries that could benefit from the
    proved overly expensive and inefficient ‘remedies’ (such as Al Gore and his totally ridiculous
    and false predictions), are not in favor of spending trillions of tax-payer dollars to achieve
    a .001 degree of ‘preventative’ warming halt. (And even that miniscule result is estimated
    to take at least 20 years! You, Vasu, are on the side of faked (and fudged) data, and the
    pure greed of the believers. Several NASA (and Japanese) climate scientists say we may
    be actually slowly heading into a cooling, not warming event.
    Question: If Chinese and Indian scientists are buying into the “Sustainable Energy” push, why
    are they both spending multiple millions of dollars to develop new coal sources? Looks to
    me that they don’t believe all the hype (and that’s what it is) about ‘Global Warming’
    Wind machines and solar sources are inefficient and the batteries needed to store enough energy
    for night energy needs is a HUGE draw on mineral and chemical sources, costing as much as
    the generating equipment or more. Do the math – to supply the daily electrical needs of this
    Country, EVERY STATE would have to be almost totally COVERED by solar panels! You’re a physicist,
    multiply the output of a 2×4′ panel and you can see how much area would be required to meet
    the Country’s electrical needs. AND THEN, try to compute how many huge storage facilities would
    be required at night. The Earth, very stubbornly, refuses to stop turning and thus, creates night.
    Lastly; “Democrats for Life” really means “Democrats for Controlling your Life” (every minute of it.)

  7. Hurley , they’re all full of hate and lies ! I’m not sure Any Democrats posses Morals . If you ok with killing a baby , at any stage , your sick and lack respect ! We Need Rowe vs Wade Reversed Now !!

  8. Why are Vasu and Redman allowed to post their hatred on this site??
    They are prime examples that there truly is no cure for stupid! They are both awful and spiteful people!!

  9. Masu Marti, You are WRONG! Read the Bible! I agree with Hurley Henson! What Religion do you follow? What Foreign Country are you from?

  10. From conception onward there is life. Any termination thereof is murder. People can create justifications for murder but terminating the life of a defenseless innocent is not among them.

  11. Dee; Not to butt in but it was not Hurley Henson that was supporting abortion before 22 weeks. Mr. Henson does not support abortion at any stage. It was Brain Oconner that made that remark. Thank you.

  12. Myron Smith; Vasu is a Hindu and he was born here. But his motherland is India. So he doesn’t follow any bible. We just hold our noses and just scroll past his propaganda..

  13. How long will it be before California is populated almost exclusively by immoral people who are willing to accept such immoral policies by their state government?

  14. Jay; Redman is a VERY deranged person that pretends he’s black or Native American . He is a real bigot and racist. He also becomes obscene with some of his posts and he “thinks” he’s funny. I can’t understand why Culture Watch hasn’t barred him either. And as far as Vasu, well many of us has requested he be barred as well . Or at the very least limit his propaganda. And yes Jay, they are both awful spiteful people. So we just have to ignore them both for now…..

  15. Frankly, Vasu, what they did thousands of years ago has little bearing on what we should do today in specific terms. And the death penalty takes long to carry out, that a pregnant woman would give birth long before the sentence is carried out.

    And my advice: make your posts shorter if you want them to be read.

  16. The reason our “representatives “ want us to pay so they don’t have to pay when they get their in turns pregnant!

  17. First California takes away freedom of speech. Now its’ freedom of religion. They have taken away the freedom to walk down the street without fear of disease or assault. When will people wake up and see what has happened to their beautiful state and demand it change? It’s not climate change that needs to be addressed but rather government change. Start voting for people who care about you.

  18. I’ve figured it out! Vasu Murti is a bot designed by Democrats to clog up websites that stand for anything anti-Democrat, anti-Left Wing, etc. Basically, Common Sense scares the Hell out of the O. P.

    Go back to India & take the rest of your Left Wing, George Soros teat-sucking comrades with you!

  19. Many many if not most leftist comments are computer generated. I have noticed this for quite some time now on sites all over the net. They will not reply as they are intended to sidetrack and clog up the comment boards. We are battling the powers of darkness….make no mistake about it..

  20. Thou shalt not do murder! This is a more correct translation of the Commandment. Taking the life of an unborn child is MURDER in its’ most foul meaning because it is an UNDEFENCEABLE act. The unborn child has committed no crime nor sin and is totally guiltless in the eyes of GOD. The “Thou shalt not kill” is a mistranslation that is frequently used to “protest” and nullify the “Death Penalty” as applied to worst kinds of criminals, by loony leftist. The Bible is full of examples of the Death Penalty be applied to those who had lived evil lives and outraged both God and man.

  21. But, the problem is that the hordes of Californians WHO are now flooding into Nevada Colorado Idaho AND Texas…WILL TURN ALL OF THOSE STATES blue ..IN NO TIME. Virginia is also being flooded with legal/illegal immigrants which is causing massive GOP problems there.

  22. Gods word states it would be better for a person to commit suicide and stand before God than to stand before him for hurting a little child. Abortion is hurting a little child.wake up people God is not mocked what ever you do here on earth will be manifested. If you dont surrender to Jesus you lose hell fire will never end

  23. Gods word states it would be better for a person to commit suicide and stand before God than to stand before him for hurting a little child. Abortion is hurting a little child.wake up people God is not mocked what ever you do here on earth will be manifested. If you dont surrender to Jesus you lose hell fire will never end

  24. You have lost your mind.. The KJV1611 does not permit abortion, it does not permit sin, People sin on their own when they fall short of the glory of GOD. This Proverbs 6:16-19

    16 These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him:

    17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

    18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

    19 A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

    SHEDDING INNOCENT BLOOD is an abomination to the LORD. Jeremiah 1:5
    “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”

    Now, Murti, Quit using your lying tongue and see the WORD of GOD for what it is. THE PERFECT, PURE, INSPIRED WORD of GOD in the KJV1611. ABORTION is EVIL. YOU are sowing discord among the Peoples. You are bearing false witness and speaking lies about GOD’s word. You better understand, you need to repent and start spreading truth about GOD, through CHRIST and quit serving LUCIFER.

  25. Why is the publisher/administrator of this site allowing these two lunatics to keep posting their continuous BS ???
    I don’t even continue reading, or consider making a comment, when these two blather their nonsensical essays on here! I will unsubscribe soon if this lunacy by thrills isn’t addressed!

  26. Just the thought of abortion is sick. But when you discover that the abortion clinics sell the baby remains to different organizations for their research it becomes even more sickening. But then we learn that some of the aborted babies are actually scalped & their scalps sold to research organizations that attach the scalps to mice so they can study baldness & regrowing hair, well I cannot even believe that there are people who love the dollar so much that they willingly benefit from the mutilated bodies of murdered babies.
    Then I see all these sick ignorant people fighting for the right to continue to murder these babies & I don’t know for sure but I would bet you that 99% of the pro-choice ignorant morons aren’t even aware that the abortion clinics are making money from selling baby parts. Hey all you “woke folks” do your fricking homework. Stop blindly being a follower!!!!!

  27. You either support free speech or you don’t. I personally find their comments to be disgusting, but I support free speech. So I support their right to say what they want. Just as we have the right to say what we want. This is a concept Leftists don’t understand.

    That said Abortion is Murder. The only possible excuse for any abortion is when the mother is in absolute verifiable risk of imminent certain death, and there is no other option.
    Instead of funding abortion we should fund adoption. Fertility clinics make a fortune off desperate people who want to be parents. Imagine taking all that money and directing it to funding adoptions. Those want to be parents would have a child much faster, with less heartbreak. Take all the money from funding planned parenthood, and put that to funding adoptions as well. Reestablish the orphanage homes of the past for children til they get adopted.

    If you do not want to have a child, keep it in your pants. Do not trust any form of birth control, abstinence is the only form of birth control that is 100% effective. And murder is not birth control, no matter what inoffensive name you give it.

  28. Codeblue; Every time one of these stories comes up it actually makes me physically ill and gives me nightmares!! The HORROR of having a abortion performed on an innocent baby is overwhelming for me! Every woman considering having this abomination performed SHOULD be forced to watch a video of what ACTUALLY happens during and afterwards having this procedure. No sugar coating it. Perhaps that would make these women stop thinking only of their own selfish needs.. And yet, these are the same people that protest against capital punishment. Claiming it is inhuman !!! Really??
    Abortion is murder.. Even if some don’t want to see this truth….
    Thank you Codeblue for standing up for what’s right!

  29. Because we have Freedom of Speech–even for the ‘ijuts’. Don’t let them win by bugging out–After all ..it’s better to light one candle than curse the darkness…right?

  30. Vasu Murti – Exodus 22 reads “If men quarrel, and one strikes a woman with child, and she miscarry indeed, but live herself, he shall be answerable for so much damage as the woman’s husband shall require and as arbiters shall award. 23. (which you left out) But if her death ensue he shall render life for life. 24. Eye for eye, tooth for tooth….

  31. vasu, you prove every time you post that you are extremely ignorant of what the Bible teaches. You have no concept at all of who God is or why He gave us His word. You have rejected the truth and follow satan.

  32. Michael, that is by design. The goal of dems is to totally control our government and us. NO FREEDOM. They are very dangerous. But they cannot win. When Jewus returns it will realy suck to be them

  33. CJ…Some of us have tried several times to get them banned, but it falls on deaf ears. They are extremely sick and deranged, but guess Culture Watch doesn’t care. sad

  34. There is a very EASY “fix” to this problem.

    Just follow in the example of Europe, from the past several centuries.

    Examples, such as the Middle East seperating the the Kurds, from the Shiites, and so on.

    The Soviets, seperating East Germany, from the west, via the Berlin Wall.

    The Mormans, practicing their own lifestyle, on land, seperate from the rest of the United States.

    If these Christians do not feel that women should have freedom of choice, then let the Christians do as David Koresh, Rev. Jim Jones, and others, have done.

    Let them set up their own, CLOSED, communities, where people live by THIER rules, instead of by federal law.

    This would solve the problem, once and for all.

  35. There must be a homeland set up in the middle of America. That is where we can protect and preserve our culture and keep the thugs out . There is a Civil war coming…DON’T deceive yourselves…it’s coming ! RET US ARMY

  36. Vasu do you think it will ever sink into your 2-cell brain that people will only see your long-winded cut-and-paste diatribe and never read any of your endless babbling ?
    You are not exhibiting profound intellect but rather portraying some brain-damaged poor soul wandering the street.
    Go rest ye high upon a mountain friend.
    You will accomplish more.

  37. This judge goes and does this when their time comes to an end it won’t be pleasant for them where they wind up. Judges and others want to support Satan’s business then he be waiting for those people in a place that is always hot when they go their souls go to hell where they belong

  38. not sure what Bible Vasu Merti uses but I think his interpretation does not follow my understanding of the word of God. His interpretation seems far left sided. I work in healthcare and have seen the results of women having abortions and now unable to conceive, have had to tell a young mother her fetus has died and she will deliver a lifeless baby, have had to help a family understand why their baby did not survive pregnancy or delivery. none of these things are easy

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