Atheists are targeting two Christian Governors with this sick new attack

114

Radical atheists won’t be happy until they wipe Christianity off the map.

They’ve targeted everything from statues of the Ten Commandments to school Christmas plays.

And now they’re attacking these state governors for one simple act.

Newly-elected Governors Kristi Noem (SD) and Kevin Stitt (OK) both held prayer services after their inauguration ceremonies.

That caught the ire of the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF).

The organization says that such prayer services – despite the fact that all were welcomed to attend – “make atheists feel unwelcomed.”

The FFRF is blowing a gasket over the fact that a sitting Governor, who is a Christian, would dare to hold a prayer service open to the public.

In a press release, the FFRF writes:

An over-the-top, government-sponsored religious service in the South Dakota Capitol is making the Freedom From Religion Foundation react in disbelief.

On Jan. 6 — her first full day as governor of South Dakota — Gov. Kristi Noem sponsored a church service in the Capitol rotunda. The event was billed as an “Inaugural Worship Service with Governor Noem,” explicitly tying this religious event to her inauguration and public office. Despite assurances that “all [were] welcome,” this event made no attempt at being an “interfaith” service; every aspect was decidedly Christian in nature.

The service featured Christian music, a full sermon by a pastor, and multiple group prayers. One of these prayers, led by a woman who identified herself as the new governor’s family friend, endorsed a Christian nationalist vision for South Dakota, saying of God: “You are the Lord and King of South Dakota” and “We thank you, Lord God, that we have faith — faith in You. And that Holy Spirit is filling this place now as we worship you, and the Holy Spirit absolutely takes over every corner and every crevice of this Capitol and of this state.” The woman then pivoted from Christian nationalism to exorcism, praying that “any demon that may try to come in this place is kicked out.”

The fact is, prayer services are a common tradition at every level of government.

Even former President Barack Obama gave remarks at an annual White House Prayer Breakfast.

But the atheists didn’t bat an eye then because unlike these governors, Obama spent his time attacking America.

In his 2015 Prayer Breakfast speech, Obama admonished Christians, pinning the blame on them for slavery and Jim Crow laws.

That led to former Virginia Governor Jim Gilmore calling Obama’s speech “the most offensive I’ve ever heard a president make in my lifetime.”

Do you think that Governors Noem and Stitt were wrong for holding prayer services?

Let us know your thoughts in the comments section below.

114 COMMENTS

  1. Don’t worry about these atheists they’re going to hell anyways I wouldn’t even bother with them they have are already condemned themselves! I feel sorry for them they will suffer an eternity definitely they have the devil in their back pocket controlling their lives and they have lost their soul

    • AMEN!!! So very true!!! They offend me, but I don’t try to change them, why do they try to change anyone who doesn’t believe or think as they do??? CRAZY!!!

    • So because Atheist Ass-Holes hate prayer, those who don’t hate prayer can’t pray? No one is forcing the malevolent to pray. And yet these heathens seek to silence those who willingly want to pray.

      • Yes, that is what they want. They want any mention of God erased from this country. They are very sick and should not even be here, as our founding fathers were Christians and left us a Christian nation. They gave us the first amendment which gives us the freedom to worship God when and where we choose. But atheists want no part of what this country stands for. They should all leave and go somewhere that does not believe in God.

      • I’m with you Denis!!! Ship them all out to an atheist country if that’s what they believe,!! This is a Country started and still is run by CHRISTIANS!!!!

      • ???? America was founded by Christians who came here to be able to worship God as they chose. They attended church services in the Capitol Building, required Bibles in schools, and installed chaplains in the military. They never meant for there to be separation of church and state. It is nowhere to be found in the Constitution. But the first amendment gives us the freedom to worship God when and where we choose. If you don’t like that, then you are free to move elsewhere. Please do

        • Many Muslims came here but they were slaves. Some estimates say 20 to 30% of slaves brought here were Muslims. So they help build this country as well. Would it be OK for Muslims to hold prayer meeting in the Capitol Buildings?

          • Where do you get this so called information? I say that only because I have never heard any such thing. Please correct me and show me this in facts please.
            And even if it is true. No they can not in my opinion. Try going to their country and hold a Christian prayer meeting and you will be hung probably.
            This is America. If you come here you should assimilate or stay in your own country. And you may practice your religion as you are entitled to but not in the Capitol.

          • This si more FAKE NEWS and I have read it before. It has gotten to where they (the Left) think they can say anything and make it sound like the truth when it is a blatant lie. The Muslims never built anything. When they were given the Gaza there was a several acre hydroponic vegetable Project. Within a short time they were begging the Jews to come back and run it as all the vegetables were dying. They must be so accustomed to the desert that they don’t even know how to water plants. DUH!

      • Your government???? Guess you don’t live in America. OUR government was founded by Christians who left us a nation based on their Christian principles, one of which is your freedom. If you hate freedom so much, please move to a country that doesn’t have it. Any Muslim country will do. There is no freedom in Islam.

        • THEY ARE NOT PUTTING THEIR RELLIGION IN YOUR GOVERNMENTY!!!!!!! THEY ARE BEING TARGETED BECAUSE THEY ARE CHRISTIANS. THE WOMAN’S MARCH IS VERY ANTI-SEMETIC. MUELLER SENT 29 SWAT TEAM ARMED MEMBERS AND 17 SQUAD CARS TO ROGER STONE’S HOME AT 5 AM TO ARREST HIM. HE HAS NO CRIMINAL RECORD AND IS 66 YRS OLD AND A THREAT TO NO ONE. THIS IS SS TROUPS, BROWN SHIRTS, NAZI YOUTHS, ETC TYPE OF MOVEMENTS. YOU BETTER WAKE UP. WE ARE IN REAL TROUBLE.

    • What happened to separation of church and state? Do you want our country to be like Iran and Saudi Arabia where religious laws govern the country?

    • Our enemy is not flesh and blood but powers and principalities that inhabit a different realm. God created man in His own image and He is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Christians are commanded to pray for their enemies. We are blessed by governors who claim to be believe in Jesus, God the Son. They need the full armor of God. God takes no pleasure in anyone “going to hell,” and neither should we. The fact that there are atheists should be the wakeup call for all who claim to be Christian to reevaluate their own lives. If the lives of Christians reflected what they claim to believe there would be revival and fewer people willing to stand up an oppose belief in the only God who died on a cross that we might live. The empty tomb is confirmation of the message and should be the motivation to tell the good news of the resurrection to those who have not yet believed.

    • “Don’t worry about these atheists they’re going to hell anyways ”

      I have already been there.
      It’s a nice small town in Michigan with very friendly people.
      I hope to go again soon.

    • Just do it anyway to defy these godless people, if you want to have a public prayer, just do it anyway, it’s a free country! I’ve been to Hell, Michigan, nice little town! Good for the governor’s of SD and OK, stand up for what you believe in!

  2. I admire them for asking for the wisdom and strength to serve the people of their states. There is no such clause in our Constitution as freedom “from” religion. It’s freedom “of” religion, as in “any” so as not to have any one religion designated as a state religion, as done in European countries like Italy, Germany, Switzerland, and England. The main reason for migration to the United States was religious persecution in their home countries. Unfortunately, this corruption to the wording of our constitution has been upheld by corrupt jurists.

      • Anton…We don’t have to!!! Try actually reading our history and know that our founding fathers were Christians and left us a Christian nation. It is your choice to reject the great love that God has for you, but you have NO RIGHT to tell anyone else that they can’t worship God, in or out of the government. And why do you hate God??? He loves you so much that He sent His Son Jesus to come and die for your sins so you have the chance to join Him in Heaven instead of going to hell with satan. You have the same chance as anyone else to come to Jesus and be saved. It costs nothing. He paid it all on the cross

      • Anton, and what is your government or country you are from and what is your religion, atheist or Islam or what. If you are Islam you are not even supposed to be in this country as Islam is contradictory to our Constitution. Atheists by acknowledging there is no God is in effect saying there is a God otherwise why even bother to say anything about God.

  3. What best describes an athiest, aside from godless. How about believes in nothing, stands for nothing, good for nothing.

  4. If you know who the atheists are just send them to the Middle East. That’s exactly where they need to be. When they compliain just immediately deport them. Our Country will be better off without them. Doesn’t matter if they were born here or not , get rid of them. Not but maybe 2 should be easy to do , just tell them we found a solution for you we are sending you to the Middle East. Good bye.

    • God’s Word tells us to leave the Tares alone because you can hurt the good wheat along with them. He and the angels will take care of them in due time. But, that doesn’t mean you jump in bed with them either. Just ignore them the best you can.

      • Anton, it is not just your government. It is every American citizen’s government. Many American citizens are Christians. I am sorry, but you do not have the right to keep them from celebrating their faith anywhere or anytime they wish. We will give you the same right.

      • mango, keep your satan out of ours. go elsewhere to spew your hatred. America was founded on these beliefs. you don;t like it?–move out! you and your selfish, bullying hatred will noybe missed. Hitler is dead, you need to go somewhere else so you can hate yourlself and everyone else–but not here in america where the majority of the people care about love, family and helping their fellow man—not bashing everyone for their own gratification. Try an island where there are no people or maybe china where you can be marching the two step, or even some radical islamic state where they love to hate.. but please go elsewhere with your absurb lack of values.

  5. The atheists are on the way to reaping, FOR ALL ETERNITY, the destruction they have sown!
    ►”Do not be deceived and deluded and mislead; GOD WILL NOT ALLOW HIMSELF TO BE SNEERED AT (scorned, disdained, or MOCKED by here pretensions or professions, or by His precepts being set aside). [He inevitably deludes himself who attempts to delude God.] For WHATEVER A MAN SOWS, that and that only is WHAT HE WILL REAP. For he who sows to his own flesh (lower nature, sensuality) will from the flesh REAP DECAY and RUIN and DESTRUCTION, but he who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. (Galatians 6: 7-8) Amplified Bible “Those who plant injustice will harvest disaster,” [https://www.gotquestions.org/you-reap-what-you-sow.html]

      • Well, not true…we were created with a need to believe in something. If you only believe in yourself, there’s your god – you. If you believe in another person, they’re your god. What/whoever you turn to in order to get comfort, answers, insight, direction’s your god – what/whoever’s MOST important to you; If you’re not following Jesus Christ, who are you following? Who’s God’s arch enemy? Lucifer, Satan. The Lord God Almighty tells us expressly this’s idolatry – these things/
        people’re idols. So if we’re not following Jesus Christ, we’re following satan & this world system. We were created to praise, honor & glorify The King (Jesus) & have unbroken, wonderful fellow-
        ship with Him. We WILL follow a master, we can’t give our allegience to 2 of them – we’ll love one & end up hating the other. Why? Because that’s how we’re made. So everyone chooses who they follow;
        we’ve all been given an inherent knowledge of right/wrong, good/evil. God says there’s NO excuse for man’s unbelief in Him, as He shows Himself in nature all around us, in that which He created. It all smacks of God. So atheists CHOOSE to follow satan instead of Christ. What’re we supposed to do? Jesus says we’re to pray for them to come to know His saving grace – we don’t know who’s going to come to Christ – people’ll still be given the chance during the Tribulation, & understanding the absolute horror of what’s going to be, we pray all the more fervently.

  6. They are welcome to come hear the Word of the Lord. satan will not allow them to do that, so they complain, belly ache and follow his leading when they need to follow His leading.

  7. perhaps they should not carry their ‘feelings’ on their shoulder waiting for someone to knock off the chip. they choose to ‘feel unwanted’ as if anyone really cares. it is all about choices and consequences. so pick your poison and go with it.

  8. I wonder if atheists believe that the earth just happened and life began in the oceans and something managed to survive by beaching itself after changing it’s gills for lungs and then gradually into mankind???
    What do they believe???
    Gayle

    • Gayle…Yes, atheists believe the universe just suddenly came from nothing at all and then evolved. That is much harder to believe than a God who created it. They have rejected God because they will not have Him rule over them. They are very sad and miserable creatures.

      • David, Much better. You have it right, he has it wrong. Obama started right out in his Administration apologizing for America and making us look like fools for letting him be President.

    • Michael…That is a very ignorant and false statement. Obama hates this country and everything it stands for. He is MUSLIM and supports Islam above all else, including our freedom. There is no freedom in Islam. It is our enemy and we put our enemy in our White House, not once but twice. Obama’s goal was to have EVERYONE dependent on government for EVERYTHING. Republicans, which you obviously know nothing about, go according to our Constitution, which Obama hates. You are a fool.

  9. Maybe the solution to this is for the atheists to immigrate
    to a country which is not Christian, rather than destroy
    a Christian country. This way they can instill the type
    of country they desire.
    OR, immigrate to some far off place like the southern
    tip of South America and build their own society..

  10. Every Country makes a mistake at one time or another, Our biggest mistake was Obama.

    God wiling, we will never do that again.

    Stock up on your Ammo.

    • Russ…Another big mistake is letting in Muslims. They should never be allowed here, as they are against everything this country stands for. There is no freedom in Islam. Their goal is total world control and their goal here is to replace our Constitution with sharia law. We are very foolish if we think they are peaceful. They are very dangerous to our freedom ad all need to be deported as they are our enemies.

  11. I am concerned that it appears the Governor is using the state house for a Christian service which implies that Christianity is the official religion of the state government. If a Muslim legislator wanted to hold a Muslim service, would that be allowed? It should be but I bet there would be some extreme push back on this.

    And I do take exception the the continued attack on Obama for basically telling the truth. Here is what he said:

    “Humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history,” he told the group, speaking of the tension between the compassionate and murderous acts religion can inspire. “And lest we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the Crusades and the Inquisition, people committed terrible deeds in the name of Christ. In our home country, slavery and Jim Crow all too often was justified in the name of Christ.” and “And if, in fact, we defend the legal right of a person to insult another’s religion, we’re equally obligated to use our free speech to condemn such insults — and stand shoulder to shoulder with religious communities, particularly religious minorities who are the targets of such attacks.”

    Some history “In the very first Congressional debates over slavery in the 1790s, when anti-slavery groups were petitioning the new Congress for an end to slavery, southern Members of Congress invoked God’s will and the Bible in defense of slavery, and cited southern Christian ministers’ sermons in doing so. As historian Eric Foner relayed in a quick phone conversation: “In the south, Christianity was a bulwark of slavery. Ministers defended slavery on the basis of the Bible. Christian churches owned slaves. In the north, many people saw Christianity as condemning slavery.” and “As for Civil Rights, many southern defenders of segregation genuinely believed God was on their side. As Julian Zelizer puts it in his terrific history of the era, southern opponents of Civil Rights legislation saw its proponents as “radical agitators who wanted to destroy wholesome southern communities, where white Americans and African Americans lived separate and equal from each other, as ordained by God.”

    Again, Obama wasn’t attacking America or Christianity, he was basically telling truths for us to learn by.

    • David…Are you really that stupid???? Obama is MUSLIM and the ENEMY of our country. Our country was founded on FREEDOM, which Obama hates. There is no freedom in Islam. Our founding fathers were CHRISTIANS who came here to be able to worship God as they wanted, not as England said they had to. They gave us the first amendment which gives us the right to worship God when and where we choose. Obama is a liar and you have no clue who God is or His great love for you. sad

      • I don’t know where to begin. Obama is not a Muslim. He is not an enemy of our country (if he is, he showed a strange way of showing it. Tripling the stock market, saving the Auto industry, cutting unemployment from 10% to 4.9%, stopping the loss of 800,000 jobs a month and creating 74+ months of private sector job growth, cutting the deficit by 60% and giving Trump an economy that had rounded third and headed home). Many of our founding fathers were not Christians. The first amendment does give you the right to worship what ever God you like but it does not give the State the right to declare any Religion to be the official religion of the State. You say Obama is a liar but Trump is the man of 7,000+ lies including the one about Obama not being born here. But you believe Trump I bet.

        • You have no concept of the truth. What I said is truth. YES, Obama is a Muslim. Read his own books. NOTHING you said is true. NONE of those things were BECAUSE of Obama. They were IN SPITE of Obama. MOST of our founding fathers were Christians and even those who were not believed in God. That is why they came here. They fled England to be able to worship God as they chose. You are a FOOL. Even Obama admitted he was born in Kenya. Open up your willfully blind eyes and dare to see the truth. So you know how many lies Trump told??? idiot. Yet Hillary lies every time she opens her mouth and that is just fine with you.

        • Anton, it is not just your government. It is every American citizen’s government. Many American citizens are Christians. I am sorry, but you do not have the right to keep them from celebrating their faith anywhere or anytime they wish. We will give you the same right.

        • My goodness, you really think Obama did those things. The unemployment rate dropped steadily during his years in office, and was never even close to 4per cent. He lost 3.5 million jobs. Practically, everything you said could be statistically disproved. He has a cult like following.

          • Where has everyone been? I heard Obama on TV before he was elected the first time answer a question, “Do you think you can handle the Muslim problem?”. Obama, “Yes, I understand them as I am one of them”. How plain and clear can he be? Everything he did was to help the Muslim Brotherhood he belongs to, i.e. Iran deal $150 BILLION TO IRAN IN CASH, out of Iraq, bow to the King of Saudi, say to the Muslim Brotherhood that “America is not a Christian Nation”. He sure did all he could to bring us down with his administration loaded with Muslims.

          • Please give proof of your statement “I heard Obama on TV before he was elected the first time answer a question, “Do you think you can handle the Muslim problem?”. Obama, “Yes, I understand them as I am one of them”.” I’ve search but can’t find it. I did find the following:

            “A widely viewed video seems to show President Obama stating that he is a Muslim. It is false, and the product of dishonest editing….We’ve received many queries about this video, which has amassed more than 1 million views since it was posted Aug. 7. It is titled “Obama Admits He Is A Muslim” and is just over nine-and-a-half minutes long. It blends edited snippets of Obama’s own words from various appearances as a candidate and as president, with on-screen graphics giving the editorial opinions of the video’s creator.

            “Obama’s Muslim Roots”

            The first section opens with a portion of the address the president gave April 6, 2009, to the Turkish Parliament in Ankara.

            Edited quote: Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country — I know, because I am one of them.

            Full quote: The United States has been enriched by Muslim Americans. Many other Americans have Muslims in their families or have lived in a Muslim-majority country — I know, because I am one of them.

            When Obama says “I am one of them,” he was speaking not of Muslims but of “other” Americans. He was making a distinction between Muslim Americans and non-Muslims who either have Muslim relatives or have lived in a country (such as Turkey) where the population is predominately Muslim.

          • Please give me proof that I didn’t state Obama’s stats correctly. Oh, Obama’s average monthly jobs created during his last two years is greater than Trump’s first two years

    • David…If you know anything about real history…not the lib propaganda taught in public schools…you would know that our founding fathers attended church services in the Capitol Building, required Bibles in schools, and installed chaplains in our military. They neve meant for there to be separation of church and state. That is nowhere to be found in the Constitution…just the opposite. They gave us freedom to worship when and where we want.

    • You are an idiot. Everything Obama did manifested his hatred for God and this country. Everything he did manifested his love for Islam. Look dumb-ass, this country was founded on Christian principles by Christians, not Muslims. YOU OFFEND ME, and the Constitution of the USA!!!!!!

  12. David…Obama and truth have nothing to do with one another. Lying is permitted in Islam. The goal of Islam is total world control. Either you serve Allah or die. THAT is their truth.

  13. If you do not like to hear prayer, insert both your left and right index fingers into both your left and right ears, then close your eyes.
    Problem solved.
    Since Heavenly Father speaks to our hearts, not our ears, you just might feel him speaking to you!!!!!

  14. I don’t understand why anyone who does not believe in God would be the least concerned about anything religious or God. Evidently they do believe there’s a God or they wouldn’t make an issue of it.

    • Yes, deep down they know that God is there, and they are very hostile because they will not have Him to rule over them and tell them right from wrong. They can’t stand any mention of Him. They have chosen satan.

  15. The 1st Amendment to the Constitution states.”Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” Notice the words, “Or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” That means “FREEDOM of RELIGION” not freedom from religion. According to the Constitution and common sense the Freedom From Religion Foundation is a false and unconstitutional foundation. Let that sink in so you can think about it. FREEDOM OF not freedom from.

    • I believe in the following about the First Amendment : “The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution says that everyone in the United States has the right to practice his or her own religion, or no religion at all.

      Our country’s founders — who were of different religious backgrounds themselves — knew the best way to protect religious liberty was to keep the government out of religion. So they created the First Amendment — to guarantee the separation of church and state. This fundamental freedom is a major reason why the U.S. has managed to avoid a lot of the religious conflicts that have torn so many other nations apart.

      The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment prohibits government from encouraging or promoting (“establishing”) religion in any way. That’s why we don’t have an official religion of the United States. This means that the government may not give financial support to any religion. That’s why many school voucher programs violate the Establishment Clause — because they give taxpayers’ money to schools that promote religion.

      The Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment gives you the right to worship or not as you choose. The government can’t penalize you because of your religious beliefs.”

      When you are using the State buildings for a Christian Church meeting you are implying that Christianity is the “State’s Religion” and that is against the Constitution.

      • David….better read REAL history. There was NEVER meant to be a separation of church and state. The first amendment DOES NOT guarantee separation of church and state at all. It gives EVERYONE the freedom to worship God when and where they choose. PERIOD. The founding fathers attended church services in the Capitol Building, required Bibles in schools and installed chaplains in the military. Hardly separation of church and state.

      • David, I’m largely in agreement with you. Liberals argue separation of church and state prevents religious tyranny and theocracy. Conservatives argue (the other side of the coin!) that one of the reasons the founding fathers established the principle of separation of church and state was to prevent the government (and I would add non parishioners in general) from interfering in ecclesiastical affairs: e.g, the government setting up a state church.

        The First Amendment reads: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion (meaning the government can’t favor one religion over another) nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

        “…respecting an establishment of religion,” in a broader sense of the word, really does mean freedom of belief. Thomas Jefferson was laissez-faire (“hands-off!”) towards all belief and disbelief, not caring whether his neighbor believes in twenty gods or no god. Religious leaders warned that if Jefferson were elected, Bibles would be confiscated, churches would be closed down, etc. Clearly, that didn’t happen. Secularists are NOT atheists.

        People are free to believe or disbelieve in whatever they want, the government is laissez-faire on all belief and disbelief.”

        I told pro-life Christian friends, Jim and Liza Frey, that Nativity scenes are fine on private property, but on public property, it sends the wrong message to religious minorities (including atheists and agnostics). It tells them the government is favoring one set of beliefs over another. It tells them they are not welcome here and that their faith isn’t as important as the majority faith.

        It’s coercion when it forces the government to recognize an establishment of religion. There’s a difference between Christians holding a rally in Balboa Park proclaiming “In God we trust” versus placing it as a state-sponsored slogan on coins and currency.

        Yes, Americans are free to believe or disbelieve in whatever they want! They’re free to religiously express themselves any way they want, too! They just can’t use the *government* to accomplish it — it can’t be state-sponsored.

        In Lee v. Weisman (1992), the Court ruled that prayers at public school graduation ceremonies are an establishment of religion.

        Conservative Christians are confusing the mere *absence* of religion in an area where it doesn’t belong or merely it isn’t state-sponsored with censorship! They claim the absence of religion indicates pressure from atheists. Why doesn’t the presence of religion indicate persons imposing their religion on others?!

        There is no “anti-religious left-ism” as conservative Christians claim. Thomas Jefferson was laissez-faire towards all belief and disbelief, not caring whether his neighbor believed in twenty gods or no god. Religious leaders warned that if Jefferson were elected president, Bibles would be confiscated, churches would be closed down, etc. Clearly, that didn’t happen. Secularists are not atheists.

        The First Amendment says Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof. So theists are free to express themselves, as are atheists: it just can’t be state-sponsored.

        Conservative Christians argue it’s wrong “to deny religious expression from people of faith…” I agree with them. Yes, theists have the right to express themselves, as do atheists, it just can’t be state-sponsored. When theistic slogans like “in God We Trust” are placed on coins and currency, then it’s state-sponsored and violates the First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion nor prohibiting the free exercise thereof.”

        Christians can hold a rally in Balboa Park in San Diego proclaiming, “In God we trust.”

        …but when it’s subsidized by the government, then it’s state-sponsored, and it violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, the government recognizing an establishment of religion, or, more broadly, favoring one set of beliefs or disbeliefs over another.

        I’ve asked conservative Christians before, as a thought experiment, (since Christians claim to “cover” or “do unto others…”):

        If you were living in a country where over ninety percent of the county were atheist, would opposing atheistic slogans on coins and currency be “denying anti-religious expression from people opposed to faith…” ? Would you want atheistic slogans representing the majority disbelief on coins and currency, or would you prefer the government remain religion-neutral towards all belief and disbelief, laissez-faire or “hands-off” and not take sides on whether there are twenty gods or no god, etc… ?

        It was reported in the Indo-American press in either the ’90s or 2000s that a coalition of Hindus, Buddhists, and Jains were going to court to demand a completely religion-neutral society, which does not favor one religion over another, nor one set of beliefs or disbeliefs over another.

  16. Amen to having a prayer service. If you are a believer, no evidence is necessary. If you are a non-believer, no evidence is sufficient.

  17. Liberalism and PC are a mental disorder and Pelosi,Behar,Hillary, Carrey, Waters, Shepard, the lemon, Ocasio are just some of the poster girls in the godless deranged NAZI Commie Demoncrat party!!! Here is just another Liberal LGBT useful idiot on display!

  18. We have a constitutional right to freedom of religion. Contrary to what the atheists believe they do NOT have a constitutional right to freedom from religion.

  19. Probably with the help of Catholic Bishops like the ones who went after the kids in the MAGA hats, accosted by the native American “war hero”.

  20. So everyone is OK with a Muslim Legislator holding a Muslim service in the Capitol, right? How about a Native-American Legislator holding a Native-American Religious ceremony, right?

  21. Atheists aren’t the problem. Because we see things with an open mind and don’t believe in the crap that the world is only 6,000 years old? And, if there is not entity as a GOD, then there sure as hell isn’t a Devil. Bible thumpers are brain washed fanatics, and if you read Deuteronomy you would see it’s no better than the Quran. And if you read Timothy, then you would know that women are to keep their mouth shut. If your GOD is so great, why do thousands of children die each day of Cancer?

  22. If more governors in our country, as well as MANY MORE politicians prayed, the country would be in a much better place (Morally!) than it is now! People who are afraid of prayer and of people who pray, are afraid of only one thing: GOD’S TRUTH! And Christians need to take heart…I’ve read the last chapter in the Book of Revelations AND CHRISTIANS WIN!!!! GOD IS ALIVE AND HE’S COMING AGAIN TO TAKE HIS CHURCH HOME!

  23. Pro-life Catholic Cassy Fiano claims she opposes abortion on secular grounds, but writes on Live Action: “I despise hearing abortion advocates screech about the elusive separation of church and state (which doesn’t actually exist), using it as an argument for why abortion should be legal.”

    Church-state separation is not a myth (see below). A secular society is laissez-faire toward all belief AND disbelief, which protects religious minorities, atheists, agnostics, etc. This country (the United States) wasn’t founded by Christians.

    (If you expect those outside of your faith to be bound by secular arguments on to protect the unborn, will you likewise be bound by secular arguments to protect animals? Or will you cry “MOVE”! as if we were discussing some lifeless, soulless thing, devoid of religious inspiration? And when pro-lifers are shown the long history of animal advocacy, concern for animals, and vegetarianism within Christianity, will they say, “Animal rights are a Christian cause! Like civil rights and/or protection of unborn children. This is a cause we Christians must support!” ?)

    A Roman Catholic priest, Reverend David K. O’Rourke, said, “Every religious group in the United States is a minority group. Some may be unhappy with this status and wish they had official standing. I am not unhappy with it. The Catholic Church, the largest of these minorities, has prospered greatly in this country where we separate church and state.”

    According to journalist Rob Boston of Americans United for Separation of Church and State: “We have a vibrant, multifaith religious society that, with the exception of a few fundamentalist Muslim states, is admired all over the globe.

    “We have a degree of interfaith harmony unmatched in the world. Our government is legally secular, but our culture accommodates and welcomes a variety of religious voices. New faiths take root here without fear…

    “Americans remain greatly interested in religion and things spiritual—unlike their counterparts in Western Europe, where religion is often state subsidized but of little interest to most people….

    “Children are no longer forced to pray in school or read from religious texts against their will, yet they are free to engage in truly voluntary religious worship whenever they feel the need. The important task of imparting religious and philosophical training to youngsters is left where it always belonged—with each child’s parents or guardians…

    “Some European nations have passed so-called anticult laws aimed at curbing the rights of unpopular new religions. Such laws would not be acceptable in the United States or permitted under the First Amendment.

    “In a multifaith society such as the United States,” observes Boston, “a type of religious marketplace does exist. Religious groups that aggressively seek converts, such as the Mormons and the Jehovah’s Witnesses, are well aware that people in the United States are able and even willing to change their religious beliefs. To these groups, it’s well worth it to enter the marketplace and advertise their goods. Lots of people might buy them…

    “Because the U.S. government is secular, religious groups are left to contend for members based solely on their own initiative. They create a free marketplace of religion that spurs competition and a vigorous religious life. This explains why the United States, which maintains church-state separation, retains a high degree of religiosity among its people.

    “The more sophisticated and perceptive believers realize that the separation principle is a boon to their faith,” notes Boston. “They see danger in any attempt by government to decide which religion is true and which is false.

    “They know that a faith that is in favor with the government today can be out of favor tomorrow. These believers are thankful for the free marketplace of religion and the secular state that makes it possible. They understand that the way to get new members is through persuasion, not government aid.”

    In 1787 when the framers excluded all mention of God from the Constitution, they were widely denounced as immoral and the document was denounced as godless, which is precisely what it is. Opponents of the Constitution challenged ratifying conventions in nearly every state, calling attention to Article VI, Section 3:

    “No religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    An anti-federalist in North Carolina wrote: “The exclusion of religious tests is by many thought dangerous and impolitic. Pagans, Deists and Mohammedans might obtain office among us.”

    Amos Singletary of Massachussetts, one of the most outspoken critics of the Constitution, said that he “hoped to see Christians (in power), yet by the Constitution, a papist or an infidel was as eligible as they.”

    Luther Martin, a Maryland delegate to the Constitutional Convention of 1787 wrote that “there were some members so unfashionable as to think that a belief in the existence of a Deity, and of a state of future rewards and punishments would be some security for the good conduct of our rulers, and that in a Christian country, it would be at least decent to hold out some distinction between the professors of Christianity and downright infidelity or paganism.”

    Martin’s report shows that a “Christian nation” faction had its say during the convention, and that its views were consciously rejected.

    The United States Constitution is a completely secular political document. It begins “We the people,” and contains no mention of “God,” “Jesus,” or “Christianity.” Its only references to religion are exclusionary, such as the “no religious test” clause (Article VI), and “Congress shall make no laws respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.” (First Amendment)

    The presidential oath of office, the only oath detailed in the Constitution, does not contain the phrase “so help me God” or any requirement to swear on a Bible (Article II, Section 1).

    The words “under God” did not appear in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954, when Congress, under McCarthyism, inserted them.

    Similarly, “In God we Trust” was absent from paper currency before 1956, though it did appear on some coins beginning in 1864.

    The original U.S. motto, written by John Adams, Benjamin Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson, is “E Pluribus Unum” (“Of Many, One”) celebrating plurality and diversity.

    In 1797, America made a treaty with Tripoli, declaring that “the government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.” This reassurance to Islam was written under Washington’s presidency and approved by the Senate under John Adams.

    We are not governed by the Declaration of Independence. Its purpose was to “dissolve the political bonds,” not to set up a religious nation. Its authority was based upon the idea that “governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,” which is contrary to the biblical concept of rule by divine authority.

    The Declaration deals with laws, taxation, representation, war, immigration, etc., and doesn’t discuss religion at all. The references to “Nature’s God,” “Creator,” and “Divine Providence” in the Declaration do not endorse Christianity. Its author, Thomas Jefferson, was a Deist, opposed to Christianity and the supernatural.

    “Of all the systems of morality, ancient or modern, which have come under my observation, none appear to me so pure as that of Jesus,” wrote Thomas Jefferson. However, Jefferson admitted, “In the New Testament there is internal evidence that parts of it have proceeded from an extraordinary man and that other parts are the fabric of very inferior minds…”

    It was Thomas Jefferson who established the separation of church and state. Jefferson was deeply suspicious of religion and of clergy wielding political power.

    Jefferson helped create the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom in 1786, incurring the wrath of Christians by his fervent defense of toleration of atheists:

    “The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts as are only injurious to others. But it does no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.”

    Jefferson advocated a “wall of separation” between church and state not to protect the church from government intrusion, but to preserve the freedom of the people:

    “I consider the doctrines of Jesus as delivered by himself to contain the outlines of the sublimest morality that has ever been taught;” he observed, “but I hold in the most profound detestation and execration the corruptions of it which have been invested by priestcraft and established by kingcraft, constituting a conspiracy of church and state against the civil and religious liberties of mankind.”

    Jefferson and the founding fathers were products of the Age of Enlightenment. Their world view was based upon Deism, secularism, and rationalism.

    “The priests of the different religious sects dread the advance of science as witches do the approach of daylight,” wrote Jefferson. “The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the Supreme Being as his Father, in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter…we may hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away all this…”

    As late as 1820, Jefferson was convinced everyone in the United States would die a Unitarian. Jefferson, Madison and Paine’s writings indicate that America was never intended to be a Christian theocracy. “I have sworn upon the altar of God,” wrote Jefferson, “eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”

    In his 1802 letter to the Danbury Baptists, Jefferson wrote:

    “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

    Similarly, in an 1824 letter to John Cartwright, Jefferson expressed anger at judges who had based rulings on their belief that Christianity is part of the common law. Cartwright had written a book critical of these judges, and Jefferson was glad to see it. Observed Jefferson:

    “The proof of the contrary, which you have produced, is controvertible; to wit, that the common law existed while the Anglo-Saxons were yet pagans, at a time when they had never yet heard the name of Christ pronounced, or knew that such a character had ever existed.”

    Jefferson challenged “the best-read lawyer to produce another script of authority for this judicial forgery” and concluded, “What a conspiracy this, between Church and State!”

    As president, Jefferson put his “wall of separation” theory into practice. He refused to issue proclamations calling for days of prayer and fasting, insisting that they violate the First Amendment. As early as 1779, Jefferson proposed a bill before the Virginia legislature that would have established a series of elementary schools to teach the basics—reading, writing, and arithmetic.

    Jefferson even suggested that “no religious reading, instruction, or exercise shall be prescribed or practiced, inconsistent with the tenets of any religious sect or denomination.” Jefferson did not regard public schools as the proper agent to form children’s religious views.

    As president, James Madison also put his separationist philosophy into action. He vetoed two bills he believed would violate church-state separation. The first was an act incorporating the Episcopal Church in the District of Columbia that gave the church the authority to care for the poor. The second was a proposed land grant to a Baptist church in Mississippi.

    Had Madison, the father of the Constitution, believed that all the First Amendment was intended to do was bar setting up a state church, he would have approved these bills. Instead, he vetoed both, and in his veto messages to Congress explicitly stated that he was rejecting the bills because they violated the First Amendment.

    Later in his life, James Madison came out against state-paid chaplains, writing, “The establishment of the chaplainship to Congress is a palpable violation of equal rights, as well as of Constitutional principles.” He also concluded that his calling for days of prayer and fasting during his presidency had been unconstitutional.

    In an 1819 letter to Robert Walsh, Madison wrote, “the number, the industry and the morality of the priesthood, and the devotion of the people have been manifestly increased by the total separation of the church from the state.” In an undated essay called the “Detached Memoranda,” written in the early 1800s, Madison wrote, “Strongly guarded… is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States.”

    In 1833 Madison responded to a letter sent to him by Jasper Adams. Adams had written a pamphlet titled “The Relations of Christianity to Civil Government in the United States,” which tried to prove that the United States was founded as a Christian nation. Madison wrote back: “In the papal system, government and religion are in a manner consolidated, and that is found to be the worst of government.”

    Madison, like Jefferson, was confident that separation of church and state would protect both the institutions of government and religion. Late in his life, Madison wrote to a Lutheran minister about this, declaring, “A due distinction… between what is due to Caesar and what is due to God, best promotes the discharge of both obligations… A mutual independence is found most friendly to practical religion, to social harmony, and to political prosperity.”

    In the early part of the 19th century, a general understanding existed that the government should not promote religion, or favor one religion over another. In 1829, Senator Richard Johnson of Kentucky wrote:

    “It is not the legitimate province of the Legislature to determine what religion is true, or what is false. Our Government is a civil and not a religious institution. Our Constitution recognizes in every person the right to choose his own religion, and to enjoy it freely, without molestation. Whatever may be the religious sentiments of citizens, and however variant, they are alike entitled to protection from the Government, so long as they do not invade the rights of others…

    “Among all the religious persecutions with which almost every page of modern history is stained, no victim ever suffered but for violation of what Government denominated the law of God. To prevent a similar train of evils in this country, the Constitution has wisely withheld from our Government the power of defining the divine law.”

  24. My opinion. There is no such thing as an atheist. They believe in a creator, just not organized religion. Put a firearm to their head and they will plead in God’s name to be saved.

  25. Who really cares what these atheists think? I’m tired of these people trying to change my way of life. Ifthey feel uncomfortable at these Christian functions, then they don’t have to attend. I certainly wouldn’t attend a Atheist rally. As far as Obama, he put a divide in this country that is still growing. He is anti-American and anti-Christain. He follows Alynsky’s Rules for Radicals. The man is a fraud.

  26. America was built on God we trust. That includes our values and our currency. America is a multi-ethnic country. NOT MULTICULTURAL WHERE WE HAVE TO CHANGE FOR EVERYBODY. IN ROME DO AS THE ROMANS DO. For those who don’t want assimilation they should leave – not destroy the American dream for Americans. GOD IS THE CULTURE FOR THE UNITED STATES.for those who don’t believe that’s fine for them but don’t try to enforce their beliefs on others. We

LEAVE A REPLY

Please enter your comment!
Please enter your name here